From jhutz@cmu.edu Wed Mar 10 22:20:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org Received: from mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu (MARINER.PC.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.200.130]) by grand.central.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 19CAC9C21 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:20:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu id aa22043; 10 Mar 2004 22:20 EST Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:20:23 -0500 From: Jeffrey Hutzelman To: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org Message-ID: <53040000.1078975223@mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Test Sender: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org Errors-To: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org X-BeenThere: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF kitten (GSS-API Updates) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is to test the mailing list and verify the archiver is working. From jhutz@cmu.edu Wed Mar 10 22:50:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org Received: from mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu (MARINER.PC.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.200.130]) by grand.central.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC9C69C1F for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu id aa22106; 10 Mar 2004 22:50 EST Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:50:38 -0500 From: Jeffrey Hutzelman To: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org Subject: Test 2 Message-ID: <58330000.1078977038@mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org Errors-To: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org X-BeenThere: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF kitten (GSS-API Updates) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: One more test, to make sure everything is working... From jhutz@cmu.edu Wed Mar 10 23:19:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org Received: from mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu (MARINER.PC.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.200.130]) by grand.central.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31BE79C2A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu id aa22132; 10 Mar 2004 23:19 EST Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:18:58 -0500 From: Jeffrey Hutzelman To: Nicolas Williams , Martin Rex Cc: "Douglas E. Engert" , krbdev@mit.edu, hartmans@mit.edu, kwc@citi.umich.edu, nfsv4-wg@citi.umich.edu, ietf-cat-wg@lists.Stanford.EDU, ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov, ietf-kitten@grand.central.org Subject: Re: Proposal to export gssapi context Message-ID: <60540000.1078978738@mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20040310174700.GM21207@binky.central.sun.com> References: <404F35A6.1694139A@anl.gov> <200403101741.SAA02251@uw1048.wdf.sap.corp> <20040310174700.GM21207@binky.central.sun.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org Errors-To: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org X-BeenThere: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF kitten (GSS-API Updates) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Followups to ietf-kitten@grand.central.org, please. On Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:47:01 -0600 Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 06:41:54PM +0100, Martin Rex wrote: >> Could we please call anything in that direction an optional extension >> to GSS-API that doesn't change the existing base spec in any way? > [...] > > I think a KITTEN mailing list will likely be available soon. We should > move this discussion there then. The mailing list Nico speaks of is now available. The list submission address is Subscribe at http://lists.central.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-kitten Manual subscription requests to Archives are at http://lists.central.org/pipermail/ietf-kitten/ > The immediate goal is to have a BoF at the 60th IETF on the creation of > a new WG, KITTEN, child of CAT. Some of us have a significant list of > possible work items for the new WG. > > We should figure out whether there's enough interest in or work for such > a WG, work on a charter, search for a chair and all that before we dive > into specific proposals' technical details. Just from the past few days, it's clear to me that we have enough interest to hold a BOF. I agree that the next step should be to try to determine approximately what we think the scope of the proposed WG should be, and come up with a specific list of work items -- in other words, work on a proposed charter. Once we have a better idea of these things, we can ask the security AD's for approval to hold a BOF in San Diego. Approval for forming a working group and of the exact charter will be up to the IESG, likely based on the results of the BOF. If a working group is formed, the responsible Area Directors will select a chair (I'll be happy to volunteer). As noted above, please send followups to the new mailing list at . -- Jeffrey T. Hutzelman (N3NHS) Sr. Research Systems Programmer School of Computer Science - Research Computing Facility Carnegie Mellon University - Pittsburgh, PA From hartmans@mit.edu Thu Mar 11 08:27:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org Received: from luminous.mit.edu (LUMINOUS.MIT.EDU [18.101.1.61]) by grand.central.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39069C4D for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by luminous.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3F19F76636; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:27:20 -0500 (EST) To: Jeffrey Hutzelman Cc: Nicolas Williams , Martin Rex , "Douglas E. Engert" , krbdev@mit.edu, kwc@citi.umich.edu, nfsv4-wg@citi.umich.edu, ietf-cat-wg@lists.Stanford.EDU, ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov, ietf-kitten@grand.central.org Subject: Re: Proposal to export gssapi context References: <404F35A6.1694139A@anl.gov> <200403101741.SAA02251@uw1048.wdf.sap.corp> <20040310174700.GM21207@binky.central.sun.com> <60540000.1078978738@mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu> From: Sam Hartman Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:27:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: <60540000.1078978738@mariner.pc.cs.cmu.edu> (Jeffrey Hutzelman's message of "Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:18:58 -0500") Message-ID: <87znanqzt3.fsf@luminous.mit.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org Errors-To: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org X-BeenThere: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF kitten (GSS-API Updates) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: >>>>> "Jeffrey" == Jeffrey Hutzelman writes: Jeffrey> Followups to ietf-kitten@grand.central.org, please. On Jeffrey> Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:47:01 -0600 Nicolas Williams Jeffrey> wrote: Why is a new mailing list needed or desirable? It seems this only serves to exclude people who are involved in the CAT working group. I believe there are no people who after careful consideration wish to be on the CAT working group list and who are not interested in this BOF proposal. From hartmans@mit.edu Thu Mar 11 11:59:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ietf-kitten@central.org Received: from konishi-polis.mit.edu (KONISHI-POLIS.MIT.EDU [18.18.3.10]) by grand.central.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73279C28 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by konishi-polis.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 8042) id BD38E15159C; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:58:45 -0500 (EST) To: ietf-cat-wg@lists.stanford.edu, nicolas.williams@sun.com Cc: ietf-kitten@central.org Subject: I don't think the kitten list is needed at this time Message-Id: <20040311165845.BD38E15159C@konishi-polis.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:58:45 -0500 (EST) From: hartmans@mit.edu (Sam Hartman) Sender: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org Errors-To: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org X-BeenThere: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF kitten (GSS-API Updates) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Does anyone actually object to having the BOF discussion here rather than on a new list? I'd prefer to do so because this list already presumably has all the people interested in GSSAPI. IF it is missing people, it's probably just as easy to add them here as on a new list. From nw141292@binky.central.sun.com Thu Mar 11 12:13:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ietf-kitten@central.org Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (nwkea-mail-1.sun.com [192.18.42.13]) by grand.central.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134F49C30 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from centralmail2brm.Central.Sun.COM ([129.147.62.14]) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2BHDdWA013645; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from binky.central.sun.com (binky.Central.Sun.COM [129.153.128.104]) by centralmail2brm.Central.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id i2BHDT4F002783; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:13:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from binky.central.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by binky.central.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2BHDJhf024840; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:13:19 -0600 (CST) Received: (from nw141292@localhost) by binky.central.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/Submit) id i2BHDHS8024839; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:13:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:13:17 -0600 From: Nicolas Williams To: Sam Hartman Cc: ietf-cat-wg@lists.stanford.edu, ietf-kitten@central.org Subject: Re: I don't think the kitten list is needed at this time Message-ID: <20040311171317.GB21207@binky.central.sun.com> References: <20040311165845.BD38E15159C@konishi-polis.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040311165845.BD38E15159C@konishi-polis.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org Errors-To: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org X-BeenThere: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF kitten (GSS-API Updates) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:58:45AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > Does anyone actually object to having the BOF discussion here rather > than on a new list? I'd prefer to do so because this list already > presumably has all the people interested in GSSAPI. IF it is missing > people, it's probably just as easy to add them here as on a new list. Why wouldn't an announcement to the old CAT WG list suffice? Presumably all the people interested in the GSS-API who are also interested in KITTEN would join the KITTEN list. I suppose I'll be happy with a forum for KITTEN other than krbdev :) Nico -- From bbense@slac.stanford.edu Thu Mar 11 15:08:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ietf-kitten@central.org Received: from mailgate01.slac.stanford.edu (mailgate01.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.80]) by grand.central.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AF99C30 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 15:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from telemark.slac.stanford.edu (telemark.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.24.241]) by mailgate01.slac.stanford.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i2BK8I4P000064; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:08:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bbense@slac.stanford.edu) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:08:18 -0800 (PST) From: Booker Bense To: Sam Hartman Cc: ietf-cat-wg@lists.Stanford.EDU, nicolas.williams@sun.com, ietf-kitten@central.org Subject: Re: I don't think the kitten list is needed at this time In-Reply-To: <20040311165845.BD38E15159C@konishi-polis.mit.edu> Message-ID: References: <20040311165845.BD38E15159C@konishi-polis.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org Errors-To: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org X-BeenThere: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF kitten (GSS-API Updates) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > Does anyone actually object to having the BOF discussion here rather > than on a new list? I'd prefer to do so because this list already > presumably has all the people interested in GSSAPI. _ I'd guess it mostly has their old email address, the addresses of a lot of people not really interested and a random collection of junk. It has gotten nothing but spam for the last 3 years. > IF it is missing > people, it's probably just as easy to add them here as on a new list. > _ True, but you'd need to publize that somewhere. _ Booker C. Bense From jaltman@columbia.edu Tue May 18 15:29:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ietf-kitten@central.org Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.238]) by grand.central.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D299C4B for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 15:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from columbia.edu (24-193-46-55.nyc.rr.com [24.193.46.55]) (user=jaltman mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i4IJTUSx006315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 May 2004 15:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40AA6422.2040309@columbia.edu> Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 15:29:38 -0400 From: Jeffrey Altman Reply-To: ietf-cat-wg@lists.stanford.edu Organization: No Longer Affiliated with Columbia University in the City of New York User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040421 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-cat-wg@lists.stanford.edu Cc: Kerberos WG , security-wg@ggf.org, nfsv4@ietf.org, ietf-kitten@central.org, saag@mit.edu Subject: Please review proposed letter to the IESG regarding the creation of the KITTEN Working Group with the IETF Security Area Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030601060907060305020601" X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.40 Sender: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org Errors-To: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org X-BeenThere: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF kitten (GSS-API Updates) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030601060907060305020601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My apologies ahead of time for the cross-posting to multiple lists. Following up on the recent discussions regarding GSSAPI v2 extensions which have taken place within the Global Grid Forum Security Working Group; on the IETF CAT Working Group mailing list; the IETF Kerberos Working Group mailing list; and many Zephyr and Jabber chat sessions, it appears to be time to form a working group as a follow up to CAT (aka KITTEN) to complete the necessary work. Prior to sending a formal request to the IESG I would like to obtain feedback from the interested parties. I have posted to: /afs/athena.mit.edu/user/j/a/jaltman/Public/kitten-iesg-letter.html http://web.mit.edu/~jaltman/Public/kitten-iesg-letter.html a proposed letter to the IESG providing the justification for the creation of the KITTEN working group. This letter includes a proposed charter as well as a set of milestones. Please read the proposal letter and send feedback to ietf-cat-wg@lists.stanford.edu. Replies to this e-mail will be redirected to the CAT mailing list. Thank you. 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Wed, 19 May 2004 14:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermes.ctd.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.ctd.anl.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15333 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 13:57:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from anl.gov (atalanta.ctd.anl.gov [146.137.194.4]) by hermes.ctd.anl.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15309; Wed, 19 May 2004 13:56:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <40ABADE6.8276197B@anl.gov> Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:56:38 -0500 From: "Douglas E. Engert" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-cat-wg@lists.stanford.edu Cc: Kerberos WG , security-wg@ggf.org, nfsv4@ietf.org, ietf-kitten@central.org, saag@mit.edu Subject: Re: Please review proposed letter to the IESG regarding the creationof the KITTEN Working Group with the IETF Security Area References: <40AA6422.2040309@columbia.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org Errors-To: ietf-kitten-admin@grand.central.org X-BeenThere: ietf-kitten@grand.central.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF kitten (GSS-API Updates) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Jeff, This look very good. I know I have requested the GGF and IETF to review the situation of extensions to GSSAPI, and I am sure many of the active GGF members (who also attend the IETF) will participate in the BOF and join the new WG. And thanks for volunteering to lead this effort. Jeffrey Altman wrote: > > My apologies ahead of time for the cross-posting to multiple lists. > > Following up on the recent discussions regarding GSSAPI v2 extensions > which have taken > place within the Global Grid Forum Security Working Group; on the IETF > CAT Working > Group mailing list; the IETF Kerberos Working Group mailing list; and > many Zephyr and > Jabber chat sessions, it appears to be time to form a working group as a > follow up to CAT > (aka KITTEN) to complete the necessary work. > > Prior to sending a formal request to the IESG I would like to obtain > feedback from > the interested parties. I have posted to: > > /afs/athena.mit.edu/user/j/a/jaltman/Public/kitten-iesg-letter.html > http://web.mit.edu/~jaltman/Public/kitten-iesg-letter.html > > a proposed letter to the IESG providing the justification for the > creation of the KITTEN working group. This letter includes a > proposed charter as well as a set of milestones. > > Please read the proposal letter and send feedback to > ietf-cat-wg@lists.stanford.edu. > Replies to this e-mail will be redirected to the CAT mailing list. > > Thank you. > > Jeffrey Altman -- Douglas E. Engert Argonne National Laboratory 9700 South Cass Avenue Argonne, Illinois 60439 (630) 252-5444