[OpenAFS] Unable to Obtain Tokens / KTC_NOCM Cause Discovered

Jeffrey Altman jaltman@columbia.edu
Thu, 08 Jan 2004 00:40:57 -0500


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Jason:

I can confirm this behavior.  You don't need to use two separate accounts.
Just login with "jcw@LOCAL" as opposed to the "jcw@REALM".
When you log in with "jcw@REALM", Windows attempts to obtain a service
ticket for "afs/LOCAL-AFS@REALM".  If you have configured your KDC
to issue such a ticket, the authentication to the SMB device will fail. 

I have not had time to figure out how Kerberos is used to authenticate SMB
services and how the AFS SMB service must be updated to handle Kerberos
vs. NTLM authentication.

For now, delete the "afs/LOCAL-AFS@REALM" service tickets from your
KDC.

Jeffrey Altman


Jason C. Wells wrote:

>For some reason, there is a difference in the level of privelege that
>'jcw' is granted depending on whether 'jcw' logs in to the MIT KDC or the
>local machine.
>
>Can someone confirm this behavior?  You'll need to have a working MIT V5
>KDC and configure windows to login with it.  Can someone explain this
>behavior?
>
>Is this a bug or a feature?
>
>Jeff, do you want a bug report on my observations?
>
>IMO, that 'jcw' requires elevated privelege at all is inappropriate.  I
>recall Jeff saying that this is known and being worked.
>
>FWIW, I can get tokens either by afs_creds and the kasverer or by aklog
>and the KDC.
>
>Later,
>Jason C. Wells
>
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<font face="Bitstream Cyberbit">Jason:<br>
<br>
I can confirm this behavior.&nbsp; You don't need to use two separate
accounts.<br>
Just login with "jcw@LOCAL" as opposed to the "jcw@REALM".<br>
When you log in with "jcw@REALM", Windows attempts to obtain a service<br>
ticket for "afs/LOCAL-AFS@REALM".&nbsp; If you have configured your KDC<br>
to issue such a ticket, the authentication to the SMB device will
fail.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
I have not had time to figure out how Kerberos is used to authenticate
SMB<br>
services and how the AFS SMB service must be updated to handle Kerberos<br>
vs. NTLM authentication.<br>
<br>
For now, delete the "afs/LOCAL-AFS@REALM" service tickets from your<br>
KDC.<br>
<br>
Jeffrey Altman<br>
<br>
<br>
Jason C. Wells wrote:</font><br>
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  <pre wrap=""><font face="Bitstream Cyberbit">For some reason, there is a difference in the level of privelege that
'jcw' is granted depending on whether 'jcw' logs in to the MIT KDC or the
local machine.

Can someone confirm this behavior?  You'll need to have a working MIT V5
KDC and configure windows to login with it.  Can someone explain this
behavior?

Is this a bug or a feature?

Jeff, do you want a bug report on my observations?

IMO, that 'jcw' requires elevated privelege at all is inappropriate.  I
recall Jeff saying that this is known and being worked.

FWIW, I can get tokens either by afs_creds and the kasverer or by aklog
and the KDC.

Later,
Jason C. Wells

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