From mvanderw@nd.edu Wed Nov 1 18:19:05 2017 From: mvanderw@nd.edu (Matt Vander Werf) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:19:05 -0400 Subject: [OpenAFS] getcwd() error for RHEL 7.4 kernel In-Reply-To: References: <20171020014132.GF96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <574D4F6E-7F51-4A2B-9213-DA051F5099A0@desy.de> <1C5CF6A1-3537-4B76-AF5A-BC081400B729@sinenomine.net> <20171027162415.GA96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <20171028124235.GG96685@kduck.kaduk.org> Message-ID: --94eb2c1a087c0327c8055cef1474 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the update! Let us know if there's anything else you need from us. We're happy to test out any potential fixes, if you'd like more testing done. Thanks. -- Matt Vander Werf HPC System Administrator University of Notre Dame Center for Research Computing - Union Station 506 W. South Street South Bend, IN 46601 Phone: (574) 631-0692 On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mark Vitale wrote: > Matt, > > > On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Matt Vander Werf wrote: > > > > Attached is the output from running the command 'lsof /afs' after > running both 'echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' and 'fs flushall' on the > system we're testing with the updated kernel. Is this what you were looki= ng > for? Let me know if you were wanting something different at all. > Thank you for the lsof output, it=E2=80=99s helpful. > > > > > We do still have users actively using AFS on the system in question (wh= o > are not having any issues, as far as we know). > > > > Did the straces I provided help at all? Or did they not give any useful > details? > The straces provided confirmation of the getcwd() ENOENT symptom. > > > Let me know if there=E2=80=99s anything else we can try or any other in= fo we can > provide. > I am now able to reproduce the problem at will on my test system, so I > don=E2=80=99t expect I will need anything more from you for now. Thank y= ou for all > you provided, and we will keep you informed if there is any progress. > > Regards, > =E2=80=94- > Mark Vitale > OpenAFS release team > --94eb2c1a087c0327c8055cef1474 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the update!

Let us know = if there's anything else you need from us. We're happy to test out = any potential fixes, if you'd like more testing done.
Thanks.

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--
Matt Vander Werf
HPC System Administrator=
University of Notre Dame
Center for Research Computing - Union Stati= on
506 W. South Street
South Bend, IN 46601
Phone: (574) 631= -0692

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mark Vital= e <mvitale@sinenomine.net> wrote:
Matt,

> On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Matt Vander Werf <mvanderw@nd.edu> wrote:
>
> Attached is the output from running the command 'lsof /afs' af= ter running both 'echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' and 'fs= flushall' on the system we're testing with the updated kernel. Is = this what you were looking for? Let me know if you were wanting something d= ifferent at all.
Thank you for the lsof output, it=E2=80=99s helpful.

>
> We do still have users actively using AFS on the system in question (w= ho are not having any issues, as far as we know).
>
> Did the straces I provided help at all? Or did they not give any usefu= l details?
The straces provided confirmation of the getcwd() ENOENT symptom.
> Let me know if there=E2=80=99s anything else we can try or any other i= nfo we can provide.
I am now able to reproduce the problem at will on my test system, so= I don=E2=80=99t expect I will need anything more from you for now.=C2=A0 T= hank you for all you provided, and we will keep you informed if there is an= y progress.

Regards,
=E2=80=94-
Mark Vitale
OpenAFS release team

--94eb2c1a087c0327c8055cef1474-- From boyland@uwm.edu Tue Nov 7 17:03:41 2017 From: boyland@uwm.edu (John Tang Boyland) Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 11:03:41 -0600 Subject: [OpenAFS] Handling stale copy of RW volume on server back up Message-ID: <7155.1510074221@pabst.cs.uwm.edu> Dear OpenAFS, This is probably a FAQ, but I couldn't find it. This references the somewhat common situation when a fileserver goes down. 1. fileserver fails -- we try to resuscitate it, but fail, and people need access to data, 2. We use the daily backup to create restore volume on a new server 3. delentry to remove the entry to the "down" fileserver (we don't want to either wait for the server to come back up, because it's not up, and also don't want the data to go away in case we are belatedly able to get the fileserver back up.) 4. vos rename the restore volume to the original volume name 5. continue to work on the down fileserver. 6. A week later, the down fileserver comes back up! Now the previously down file server has a stale copy of the RW volume, but it may include changes from between the backup time and the time the fileserver crashed. So I don't want to lose it, but nweither do I want it to be used or backed up in place of the current copy. I have NOT syncvldb yet -- I'm afraid of what might happen. How do I rename the volume on the fileserver to get out of the way of the replacement volume? I could ZAP it, but I'd like to preserve the data. vos rename works on the VLDB, not on the server. The only thing I could find is that one could vos dump each of the stale volumes and then restore as a new volume and then zap the stale volume. Is that the best? Please reply to me as well as openafs-info (I get a delayed digest). Best regards, John From Fabien Wernli Wed Nov 15 15:19:04 2017 From: Fabien Wernli (Fabien Wernli) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 16:19:04 +0100 Subject: [OpenAFS] getcwd() error for RHEL 7.4 kernel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20171115151904.taont23pjviz7phl@ccfawe.in2p3.fr> Hi, We're experiencing the exact same issue as nd.edu, namely random getcwd() error messages especially from users having tcsh as their login shell. I've been trying to reproduce it using pwd loops in different account's home directory, without success. It's really very random. Our config: ## OS: CentOS 7.4 with kernel 3.10.0-693.2.2.el7.x86_64 ## OpenAFS RPMs from Scientific Linux dot org kmod-openafs-1.6-sl-693-1.6.21-274.sl7.693.x86_64 openafs-1.6-sl-module-tools-1.6.20-256.7.x86_64 openafs-1.6-sl-1.6.20-256.7.x86_64 openafs-1.6-sl-client-1.6.20-256.7.x86_64 openafs-1.6-sl-compat-1.6.20-256.7.x86_64 openafs-1.6-sl-krb5-1.6.20-256.7.x86_64 openafs-1.6-sl-module-tools-1.6.20-256.7.x86_64 pam_afs_session-2.6-5.el7.x86_64 Cheers From mvanderw@nd.edu Wed Nov 15 18:02:15 2017 From: mvanderw@nd.edu (Matt Vander Werf) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:02:15 -0500 Subject: [OpenAFS] getcwd() error for RHEL 7.4 kernel In-Reply-To: References: <20171020014132.GF96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <574D4F6E-7F51-4A2B-9213-DA051F5099A0@desy.de> <1C5CF6A1-3537-4B76-AF5A-BC081400B729@sinenomine.net> <20171027162415.GA96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <20171028124235.GG96685@kduck.kaduk.org> Message-ID: --f4030438f0f02e559d055e09509e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Are there any updates or progress on a potential fix for this issue? Anything we can do to help figure things out? We are running into more and more users encountering the issue on systems we have updated, forcing us to have to downgrade the kernel on them yet as well (including the system we were able to reproduce it on and test with before). Is there any other information we might provide before we do that? Thank you. -- Matt Vander Werf HPC System Administrator University of Notre Dame Center for Research Computing - Union Station 506 W. South Street South Bend, IN 46601 Phone: (574) 631-0692 On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Matt Vander Werf wrote: > Thanks for the update! > > Let us know if there's anything else you need from us. We're happy to tes= t > out any potential fixes, if you'd like more testing done. > > Thanks. > > -- > Matt Vander Werf > HPC System Administrator > University of Notre Dame > Center for Research Computing - Union Station > 506 W. South Street > South Bend, IN 46601 > Phone: (574) 631-0692 > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mark Vitale > wrote: > >> Matt, >> >> > On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Matt Vander Werf wrote: >> > >> > Attached is the output from running the command 'lsof /afs' after >> running both 'echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' and 'fs flushall' on th= e >> system we're testing with the updated kernel. Is this what you were look= ing >> for? Let me know if you were wanting something different at all. >> Thank you for the lsof output, it=E2=80=99s helpful. >> >> > >> > We do still have users actively using AFS on the system in question >> (who are not having any issues, as far as we know). >> > >> > Did the straces I provided help at all? Or did they not give any usefu= l >> details? >> The straces provided confirmation of the getcwd() ENOENT symptom. >> >> > Let me know if there=E2=80=99s anything else we can try or any other i= nfo we >> can provide. >> I am now able to reproduce the problem at will on my test system, so I >> don=E2=80=99t expect I will need anything more from you for now. Thank = you for all >> you provided, and we will keep you informed if there is any progress. >> >> Regards, >> =E2=80=94- >> Mark Vitale >> OpenAFS release team >> > > --f4030438f0f02e559d055e09509e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

Are there any updates or pro= gress on a potential fix for this issue? Anything we can do to help figure = things out?

We are running into more and more = users encountering the issue on systems we have updated, forcing us to have= to downgrade the kernel on them yet as well (including the system we were = able to reproduce it on and test with before). Is there any other informati= on we might provide before we do that?

Thank you.

--
Matt Vander Werf
HPC System Administrat= or
University of Notre Dame
Center for Research Computing - Union Sta= tion
506 W. South Street
South Bend, IN 46601
Phone: (574) 63= 1-0692

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Matt Vander = Werf <mvanderw@nd.edu> wrote:
Thanks for the update!

Let us kno= w if there's anything else you need from us. We're happy to test ou= t any potential fixes, if you'd like more testing done.
<= br>
Thanks.

--
=
Matt Vander Werf
HPC System Administrator
University of Notre Da= me
Center for Research Computing - Union Station
506 W. South Street<= br>South Bend, IN 46601
Phone: (574) 631-0692

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mark Vitale <= mvitale@sinenom= ine.net> wrote:
Matt,

> On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Matt Vander Werf <mvanderw@nd.edu> wrote:
>
> Attached is the output from running the command 'lsof /afs' af= ter running both 'echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' and 'fs= flushall' on the system we're testing with the updated kernel. Is = this what you were looking for? Let me know if you were wanting something d= ifferent at all.
Thank you for the lsof output, it=E2=80=99s helpful.

>
> We do still have users actively using AFS on the system in question (w= ho are not having any issues, as far as we know).
>
> Did the straces I provided help at all? Or did they not give any usefu= l details?
The straces provided confirmation of the getcwd() ENOENT symptom.
> Let me know if there=E2=80=99s anything else we can try or any other i= nfo we can provide.
I am now able to reproduce the problem at will on my test system, so= I don=E2=80=99t expect I will need anything more from you for now.=C2=A0 T= hank you for all you provided, and we will keep you informed if there is an= y progress.

Regards,
=E2=80=94-
Mark Vitale
OpenAFS release team


--f4030438f0f02e559d055e09509e-- From jwedgeco@uncc.edu Wed Nov 15 18:22:41 2017 From: jwedgeco@uncc.edu (Jason Edgecombe) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:22:41 -0500 Subject: [OpenAFS] getcwd() error for RHEL 7.4 kernel In-Reply-To: References: <20171020014132.GF96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <574D4F6E-7F51-4A2B-9213-DA051F5099A0@desy.de> <1C5CF6A1-3537-4B76-AF5A-BC081400B729@sinenomine.net> <20171027162415.GA96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <20171028124235.GG96685@kduck.kaduk.org> Message-ID: --f403043ec1f434f13f055e09993a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =E2=80=8BI'm seeing this on some CentOS 7.4 systems that don't have AFS ins= talled at all. It tends to happen in SMB network folders.=E2=80=8B --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Edgecombe | Linux Administrator UNC Charlotte | The William States Lee College of Engineering 9201 University City Blvd. | Charlotte, NC 28223-0001 Phone: 704-687-1943 jwedgeco@uncc.edu | http://engr.uncc.edu | Facebook --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or other use of any of the information in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 704-687-1943. Thank you. On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Matt Vander Werf wrote: > Hello, > > Are there any updates or progress on a potential fix for this issue? > Anything we can do to help figure things out? > > We are running into more and more users encountering the issue on systems > we have updated, forcing us to have to downgrade the kernel on them yet a= s > well (including the system we were able to reproduce it on and test with > before). Is there any other information we might provide before we do tha= t? > > Thank you. > > -- > Matt Vander Werf > HPC System Administrator > University of Notre Dame > Center for Research Computing - Union Station > 506 W. South Street > > South Bend, IN 46601 > > Phone: (574) 631-0692 > > On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Matt Vander Werf wrote: > >> Thanks for the update! >> >> Let us know if there's anything else you need from us. We're happy to >> test out any potential fixes, if you'd like more testing done. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> Matt Vander Werf >> HPC System Administrator >> University of Notre Dame >> Center for Research Computing - Union Station >> 506 W. South Street >> >> South Bend, IN 46601 >> >> Phone: (574) 631-0692 >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mark Vitale >> wrote: >> >>> Matt, >>> >>> > On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Matt Vander Werf wrote= : >>> > >>> > Attached is the output from running the command 'lsof /afs' after >>> running both 'echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' and 'fs flushall' on t= he >>> system we're testing with the updated kernel. Is this what you were loo= king >>> for? Let me know if you were wanting something different at all. >>> Thank you for the lsof output, it=E2=80=99s helpful. >>> >>> > >>> > We do still have users actively using AFS on the system in question >>> (who are not having any issues, as far as we know). >>> > >>> > Did the straces I provided help at all? Or did they not give any >>> useful details? >>> The straces provided confirmation of the getcwd() ENOENT symptom. >>> >>> > Let me know if there=E2=80=99s anything else we can try or any other = info we >>> can provide. >>> I am now able to reproduce the problem at will on my test system, so I >>> don=E2=80=99t expect I will need anything more from you for now. Thank= you for all >>> you provided, and we will keep you informed if there is any progress. >>> >>> Regards, >>> =E2=80=94- >>> Mark Vitale >>> OpenAFS release team >>> >> >> > --f403043ec1f434f13f055e09993a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=E2=80=8BI'm seeing this on some CentOS 7.4 systems= that don't have AFS installed at all. It tends to happen in SMB networ= k folders.=E2=80=8B

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On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Matt Vander= Werf <mvanderw@nd.edu> wrote:
Hello,

Are there any updates or = progress on a potential fix for this issue? Anything we can do to help figu= re things out?

We are running into more and mo= re users encountering the issue on systems we have updated, forcing us to h= ave to downgrade the kernel on them yet as well (including the system we we= re able to reproduce it on and test with before). Is there any other inform= ation we might provide before we do that?

Thank you= .

--
M= att Vander Werf
HPC System Administrator
University of Notre Dame
= Center for Research Computing - Union Station
506 W. South Street
South Bend, IN 46601
Phone: (574) 631-0692

On Wed, Nov 1,= 2017 at 1:19 PM, Matt Vander Werf <mvanderw@nd.edu> wrote:
Thanks for the u= pdate!

Let us know if there's anything else you need from = us. We're happy to test out any potential fixes, if you'd like more= testing done.

Thanks.

--
Matt Vander WerfHPC System Administrator
University of Notre Dame
Center for Researc= h Computing - Union Station
506 = W. South Street
South Bend, = IN 46601
Phone: (574) 631-0692

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mark Vitale <= span dir=3D"ltr"><mvitale@sinenomine.net> wrote:
Matt,

> On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Matt Vander Werf <mvanderw@nd.edu> wrote:
>
> Attached is the output from running the command 'lsof /afs' af= ter running both 'echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' and 'fs= flushall' on the system we're testing with the updated kernel. Is = this what you were looking for? Let me know if you were wanting something d= ifferent at all.
Thank you for the lsof output, it=E2=80=99s helpful.

>
> We do still have users actively using AFS on the system in question (w= ho are not having any issues, as far as we know).
>
> Did the straces I provided help at all? Or did they not give any usefu= l details?
The straces provided confirmation of the getcwd() ENOENT symptom.
> Let me know if there=E2=80=99s anything else we can try or any other i= nfo we can provide.
I am now able to reproduce the problem at will on my test system, so= I don=E2=80=99t expect I will need anything more from you for now.=C2=A0 T= hank you for all you provided, and we will keep you informed if there is an= y progress.

Regards,
=E2=80=94-
Mark Vitale
OpenAFS release team



--f403043ec1f434f13f055e09993a-- From kaduk@mit.edu Thu Nov 16 06:06:11 2017 From: kaduk@mit.edu (Benjamin Kaduk) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 00:06:11 -0600 Subject: [OpenAFS] getcwd() error for RHEL 7.4 kernel In-Reply-To: References: <20171027162415.GA96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <20171028124235.GG96685@kduck.kaduk.org> Message-ID: <20171116060610.GK82825@kduck.kaduk.org> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 01:02:15PM -0500, Matt Vander Werf wrote: > Hello, > > Are there any updates or progress on a potential fix for this issue? > Anything we can do to help figure things out? This topic was on the agenda for our release-team meeting yesterday. If I remmber correctly, multiple developers have gotten fairly reliable ways to reproduce the issue locally. It also seems that as a workaround, reverting https://gerrit.openafs.org/#/c/12451/ is likely to reduce the likelihood of triggering events. > We are running into more and more users encountering the issue on systems > we have updated, forcing us to have to downgrade the kernel on them yet as > well (including the system we were able to reproduce it on and test with > before). Is there any other information we might provide before we do that? Given the assumption that developers are reproducing the same situation that you are, hopefully there is not a need for additional information from the production sites. Thanks, Ben From stephan.wiesand@desy.de Thu Nov 16 17:26:22 2017 From: stephan.wiesand@desy.de (Stephan Wiesand) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:26:22 +0100 Subject: [OpenAFS] getcwd() error for RHEL 7.4 kernel In-Reply-To: <20171116060610.GK82825@kduck.kaduk.org> References: <20171027162415.GA96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <20171028124235.GG96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <20171116060610.GK82825@kduck.kaduk.org> Message-ID: <89D3F54E-E261-4D9B-9581-8D84136226D4@desy.de> On Nov 16, 2017, at 07:06 , Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 01:02:15PM -0500, Matt Vander Werf wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >> Are there any updates or progress on a potential fix for this issue? >> Anything we can do to help figure things out? >=20 > This topic was on the agenda for our release-team meeting yesterday. Well, it has been for the last couple of weeks. > If I remmber correctly, multiple developers have gotten fairly > reliable ways to reproduce the issue locally. > It also seems that as a workaround, reverting > https://gerrit.openafs.org/#/c/12451/ is likely to reduce the > likelihood of triggering events. Yes, but there's at least one known client configuration (small stat = cache, -disable-dynamic-vcaches) for which reverting that change = actually makes things worse. I ran a number of tests again today. I was unable to trigger any issue = with the EL7.3 kernel, neither with OpenAFS 1.6.20 nor 1.6.21.1 nor = 1.6.21.1 with the change in question reverted. I was able to trigger the = getcwd issue or the other one (a git clone into AFS space failing right = away) with the EL7.4 kernel, depending on circumstances. We do have a = problem with the 7.4 kernel, with or without that change. The following could be complete nonsense, so please correct me: The best = bet for sites getting desperate is probably to increase the minimum stat = cache size beyond typical actual use on the client. - Stephan >> We are running into more and more users encountering the issue on = systems >> we have updated, forcing us to have to downgrade the kernel on them = yet as >> well (including the system we were able to reproduce it on and test = with >> before). Is there any other information we might provide before we do = that? >=20 > Given the assumption that developers are reproducing the same > situation that you are, hopefully there is not a need for additional > information from the production sites. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Ben From cwseys@physics.wisc.edu Fri Nov 17 18:22:14 2017 From: cwseys@physics.wisc.edu (Chad William Seys) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 12:22:14 -0600 Subject: [OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS-info digest, Vol 1 #6856 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <20171117170101.3B248D0@grand.central.org> References: <20171117170101.3B248D0@grand.central.org> Message-ID: <17db8738-9ed7-71a0-3782-fd0f4d2d427a@physics.wisc.edu> Is it time for git bisect? (Not sure how easy that is with redhat kernel.) Chad. From kaduk@mit.edu Fri Nov 17 18:34:22 2017 From: kaduk@mit.edu (Benjamin Kaduk) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 12:34:22 -0600 Subject: [OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS-info digest, Vol 1 #6856 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <17db8738-9ed7-71a0-3782-fd0f4d2d427a@physics.wisc.edu> References: <20171117170101.3B248D0@grand.central.org> <17db8738-9ed7-71a0-3782-fd0f4d2d427a@physics.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <20171117183422.GO82825@kduck.kaduk.org> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:22:14PM -0600, Chad William Seys wrote: > Is it time for git bisect? (Not sure how easy that is with redhat kernel.) Red Hat is now only delivering monolithic kernel patches, so bisection in the strict sense is impossible. -aben From drosih@rpi.edu Fri Nov 17 22:35:25 2017 From: drosih@rpi.edu (Garance A Drosehn) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 17:35:25 -0500 Subject: [OpenAFS] getcwd() error for RHEL 7.4 kernel In-Reply-To: <20171018232122.GD96685@kduck.kaduk.org> References: <20171018232122.GD96685@kduck.kaduk.org> Message-ID: On 18 Oct 2017, at 19:21, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:55:27AM -0400, Jacob Bonek wrote: >> >> This is a major issue that has caused us to have to stay at the >> latest >> pre-RHEL 7.4 kernel for a long time now while this issue has existed. >> This may be related to previous issues with getcwd() but something in >> the RHEL 7.4 kernel seems to have made it much worse. >> Has anyone else experienced this issue with RHEL 7.4? Is there >> anything >> that we can do to narrow down what is causing this? > > I think we've seen another report or two, but it's always been hard to > reproduce. That said, with the specifics you've offered about the > kernel version that introduced the issue, we've got a couple folks > trying to reproduce in a controlled environment. I'm seeing this (a little), but haven't had time to look into it. But here's some thoughts/observations: I have three RHEL systems, all currently running: kernel.x86_64 3.10.0-693.el7 They're all running the exact same build of OpenAFS, because I built it on a different system, created RPM's, and installed the exact same RPM's on all three systems. kmod-openafs.x86_64 1.6.21-1.3.10.0_693.el7 openafs.x86_64 1.6.21-1.el7 openafs-client.x86_64 1.6.21-1.el7 openafs-docs.x86_64 1.6.21-1.el7 openafs-krb5.x86_64 1.6.21-1.el7 These are three remote-access machines for RPI users, so the intent is that they should be exactly the same. I'm sure there are some minor changes, but at least for the kernel and openafs modules they are definitely the same. On one of them, if I log in to my userid and 'sudo bash', I get a lot of messages like: shell-init: error retrieving current directory: \ getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory job-working-directory: error retrieving current directory: \ getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory I've only seen this if the active working directory is my home directory. It won't happen if I 'cd' into some sub-directory under my home directory before I do the 'sudo bash'. This seems to always happen on one of the three machines. It never happens on a second machine, and it *sometimes* happens on the third machine. By "sometimes", I mean that some days it never happens, but other days it seems to happen all the time. I have not seen the problem right at login, but only if I do a 'sudo bash' while in my home directory at any time after I logged in. Once I have done the 'sudo bash', I can then 'cd' into the home directory of my original userid and there are no error messages. These machines are used by maybe 100 different people. I have not heard of anyone who has seen these error messages when they login, but we do have some users who never report errors as long as they can get their work done. And of course, I'm the only one who would be doing 'sudo' commands on these machines. I wonder if it has to do with the home directory being an AFS mount point (as opposed to a standard directory somewhere inside an AFS volume), but I have not had the time to do any tests of that idea. The fact that I don't see the same behavior on all three machines makes me wonder if it has to do with how much the other users have been doing. Maybe they've used up more of the local AFS cache on some machines than others. I haven't had the chance to reboot any of these machines for a few months now, but I hope to do that over the long thanksgiving weekend. Given the errors seen at some other sites, I probably won't upgrade the kernel or version of OpenAFS until the semester break. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosih@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From mvitale@sinenomine.net Sun Nov 19 20:41:00 2017 From: mvitale@sinenomine.net (Mark Vitale) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 20:41:00 +0000 Subject: [OpenAFS] getcwd() error for RHEL 7.4 kernel In-Reply-To: <89D3F54E-E261-4D9B-9581-8D84136226D4@desy.de> References: <20171027162415.GA96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <20171028124235.GG96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <20171116060610.GK82825@kduck.kaduk.org> <89D3F54E-E261-4D9B-9581-8D84136226D4@desy.de> Message-ID: <5ACDCF62-22A5-4C98-9463-2491CF078927@sinenomine.net> DQo+IE9uIE5vdiAxNiwgMjAxNywgYXQgMTI6MjYgUE0sIFN0ZXBoYW4gV2llc2FuZCA8c3RlcGhh bi53aWVzYW5kQGRlc3kuZGU+IHdyb3RlOg0KPiANCj4gDQo+IE9uIE5vdiAxNiwgMjAxNywgYXQg MDc6MDYgLCBCZW5qYW1pbiBLYWR1ayB3cm90ZToNCj4gDQo+PiBPbiBXZWQsIE5vdiAxNSwgMjAx NyBhdCAwMTowMjoxNVBNIC0wNTAwLCBNYXR0IFZhbmRlciBXZXJmIHdyb3RlOg0KPj4+IEhlbGxv LA0KPj4+IA0KPj4+IEFyZSB0aGVyZSBhbnkgdXBkYXRlcyBvciBwcm9ncmVzcyBvbiBhIHBvdGVu dGlhbCBmaXggZm9yIHRoaXMgaXNzdWU/DQo+Pj4gQW55dGhpbmcgd2UgY2FuIGRvIHRvIGhlbHAg ZmlndXJlIHRoaW5ncyBvdXQ/DQo+PiANCj4+IFRoaXMgdG9waWMgd2FzIG9uIHRoZSBhZ2VuZGEg Zm9yIG91ciByZWxlYXNlLXRlYW0gbWVldGluZyB5ZXN0ZXJkYXkuDQo+IA0KPiBXZWxsLCBpdCBo YXMgYmVlbiBmb3IgdGhlIGxhc3QgY291cGxlIG9mIHdlZWtzLg0KPiANCj4+IElmIEkgcmVtbWJl ciBjb3JyZWN0bHksIG11bHRpcGxlIGRldmVsb3BlcnMgaGF2ZSBnb3R0ZW4gZmFpcmx5DQo+PiBy ZWxpYWJsZSB3YXlzIHRvIHJlcHJvZHVjZSB0aGUgaXNzdWUgbG9jYWxseS4NCj4+IEl0IGFsc28g c2VlbXMgdGhhdCBhcyBhIHdvcmthcm91bmQsIHJldmVydGluZw0KPj4gaHR0cHM6Ly9nZXJyaXQu b3BlbmFmcy5vcmcvIy9jLzEyNDUxLyBpcyBsaWtlbHkgdG8gcmVkdWNlIHRoZQ0KPj4gbGlrZWxp aG9vZCBvZiB0cmlnZ2VyaW5nIGV2ZW50cy4NCj4gDQo+IFllcywgYnV0IHRoZXJl4oCZcyBhdCBs ZWFzdCBvbmUga25vd24gY2xpZW50IGNvbmZpZ3VyYXRpb24gKHNtYWxsIHN0YXQgY2FjaGUsIC1k aXNhYmxlLWR5bmFtaWMtdmNhY2hlcykgZm9yIHdoaWNoIHJldmVydGluZyB0aGF0IGNoYW5nZSBh Y3R1YWxseSBtYWtlcyB0aGluZ3Mgd29yc2UuDQoNClRoZSByb290IGNhdXNlIGlzIHRoYXQgdGhl IHNlbWFudGljcyBvZiBMaW51eCBkX2ludmFsaWRhdGUoKSBjaGFuZ2VkIGJldHdlZW4NCjMuMTAu MC01MTQgKFJIL0NlbnRPUyA3LjMpIGFuZCAzLjEwLjAtNjkzIChSSC9DZW50T1MgNy40KS4gIA0K VGhlIGZvcm1lciB3b3VsZCByZXR1cm4gLUVCVVNZIGlmIHlvdSBhdHRlbXB0ZWQgdG8gaW52YWxp ZGF0ZSB0aGUNCmN1cnJlbnQgd29ya2luZyBkaXJlY3RvcnkuICBUaGUgbGF0dGVyIHdpbGwgaW52 YWxpZGF0ZSAodW5oYXNoKQ0KdGhlIGN1cnJlbnQgd29ya2luZyBkaXJlY3RvcnnigJlzIGRlbnRy eSB3aXRob3V0IGEgc2Vjb25kIHRob3VnaHQuDQpPcGVuQUZTIGNvZGUgaW4gYWZzX1NoYWtlTG9v c2VWQ2FjaGVzKCkgY3VycmVudGx5IHJlbGllcyBvbiB0aGUgZm9ybWVyIGJlaGF2aW9yDQp0byBw cmV2ZW50IHRoZSBnZXRjd2QoKSBFTk9FTlQgcHJvYmxlbS4NCg0KSSBhbSB3b3JraW5nIG9uIGEg cGF0Y2ggYW5kIHdpbGwgc3VibWl0IGl0IHRvIGdlcnJpdCB3aGVuIGl0IHBhc3NlcyBteSB0ZXN0 cy4NCg0KVGhhbmsgeW91IHRvIGV2ZXJ5b25lIHdobyBzaGFyZWQgZGVidWdnaW5nIGFuZCB0ZXN0 IHJlc3VsdHMuDQpJIHdpbGwgcG9zdCBoZXJlIGFnYWluIHdoZW4gdGhlIHBhdGNoIGlzIGF2YWls YWJsZSBpbiBnZXJyaXQsIHNvIHRoYXQgYW55b25lDQp3aG8gd2lzaGVzIG1heSB0ZXN0IGl0IGlu IHRoZWlyIHNldHVwLg0KDQpSZWdhcmRzLA0K4oCUDQpNYXJrIFZpdGFsZQ0KU2luZSBOb21pbmUg QXNzb2NpYXRlcw0KDQo= From kaduk@mit.edu Sun Nov 19 22:09:20 2017 From: kaduk@mit.edu (Benjamin Kaduk) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 16:09:20 -0600 Subject: [OpenAFS] getcwd() error for RHEL 7.4 kernel In-Reply-To: References: <20171018232122.GD96685@kduck.kaduk.org> Message-ID: <20171119220919.GQ82825@kduck.kaduk.org> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 05:35:25PM -0500, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > I wonder if it has to do with the home directory being an AFS mount > point > (as opposed to a standard directory somewhere inside an AFS volume), but > I > have not had the time to do any tests of that idea. > > The fact that I don't see the same behavior on all three machines makes > me > wonder if it has to do with how much the other users have been doing. > Maybe > they've used up more of the local AFS cache on some machines than > others. It certainly seems plausible, given the observations I've seen about the size of the -stat argument to afsd relative to actual usage. -Ben From jason@rampaginggeek.com Sun Nov 26 14:40:42 2017 From: jason@rampaginggeek.com (Jason Edgecombe) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 09:40:42 -0500 Subject: [OpenAFS] Phasing out as buildbot admin Message-ID: Hi everyone, I want to let everyone  know that I'm phasing out as the buildbot admin. I haven't been doing much with it lately, and I'd rather hand it off to someone else that is more involved. Please direct all of your buildbot communication to Benjamin Kaduk and Michael Meffie . I'll still be around, but I'll mostly be lurking. It's been a pleasure to work with everyone, and I wish everyone the best. Sincerely, Jason From derek@ihtfp.com Sun Nov 26 15:04:53 2017 From: derek@ihtfp.com (Derek Atkins) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:04:53 -0500 Subject: [OpenAFS] Phasing out as buildbot admin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22c8b41436a9947fd917a75501ea7f20.squirrel@mail2.ihtfp.org> Thank you for all your service! -derek On Sun, November 26, 2017 9:40 am, Jason Edgecombe wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I want to let everyone  know that I'm phasing out as the buildbot admin. > I haven't been doing much with it lately, and I'd rather hand it off to > someone else that is more involved. Please direct all of your buildbot > communication to Benjamin Kaduk and Michael Meffie > . I'll still be around, but I'll mostly be > lurking. It's been a pleasure to work with everyone, and I wish everyone > the best. > > Sincerely, > > Jason > > _______________________________________________ > OpenAFS-info mailing list > OpenAFS-info@openafs.org > https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info > -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 derek@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 derek@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant From botsch@cnf.cornell.edu Sun Nov 26 17:44:24 2017 From: botsch@cnf.cornell.edu (Dave Botsch) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:44:24 -0500 Subject: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Phasing out as buildbot admin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20171126174424.GX15420@cnf.cornell.edu> Jason, On behalf of the Foundation Board and of myself, thanks for all the time and work you've put in keeping the Buildbot system going. This effort has been invaluable to keeping the OpenAFS effort moving forward. Again, thank you! On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 09:40:42AM -0500, Jason Edgecombe wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > I want to let everyone=A0 know that I'm phasing out as the buildbot > admin. I haven't been doing much with it lately, and I'd rather hand > it off to someone else that is more involved. Please direct all of > your buildbot communication to Benjamin Kaduk and > Michael Meffie . I'll still be around, but > I'll mostly be lurking. It's been a pleasure to work with everyone, > and I wish everyone the best. >=20 > Sincerely, >=20 > Jason >=20 > _______________________________________________ > OpenAFS-devel mailing list > OpenAFS-devel@openafs.org > https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-devel --=20 ******************************** David William Botsch Programmer/Analyst @CNFComputing botsch@cnf.cornell.edu ******************************** From giovanni.bracco@enea.it Mon Nov 27 20:05:30 2017 From: giovanni.bracco@enea.it (Giovanni Bracco) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 21:05:30 +0100 Subject: [OpenAFS] windows server 2012 64 bit and integrated authentication with AFS token? Message-ID: hello! we are trying to install and configure OpenAFS client on a Windows Server machine (vers. 2012 R2 build 9600 x86_64). We have installed Kerberos MIT client (vers. 3.22) and we are able to obtain kerberos tickets for a principal from both the IdentityManager GUI and the Window command line interface, using kinit. In the next step, we have installed AFS client and the Kerberos IdentityManager detects it, but their integration does not work, as the afs token can not be obtained. We have tried with both OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3100) and AuriStor OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3300). Nevertheless, if we operate in the command line, we can obtain kerberos tickets and tokens without problems (using kinit and aklog). Any suggestion to make the integration and the GUI work properly? Giovanni -- Giovanni Bracco DTE-ICT-HPC ENEA Via E. Fermi 45 I-00044 Frascati (Roma) Italy phone +39-06-9400-5597 mobile +39-3351992144 FAX +39-06-9400-5735 E-mail giovanni.bracco@enea.it WWW http://www.afs.enea.it/bracco From botsch@cnf.cornell.edu Tue Nov 28 04:48:06 2017 From: botsch@cnf.cornell.edu (Dave Botsch) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 23:48:06 -0500 Subject: [OpenAFS] windows server 2012 64 bit and integrated authentication with AFS token? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16000f41b70.27ea.7e7218444f75578ebec1b7dbb1486319@cnf.cornell.edu> Does the integrated login pop up a fail error msg? If so, what? Thanks. On November 27, 2017 15:05:54 Giovanni Bracco w= rote: > hello! > we are trying to install and configure OpenAFS client on a Windows > Server machine (vers. 2012 R2 build 9600 x86_64). > > We have installed Kerberos MIT client (vers. 3.22) and we are able to > obtain kerberos tickets for a principal from both the IdentityManager > GUI and the Window command line interface, using kinit. > > In the next step, we have installed AFS client and the Kerberos > IdentityManager detects it, but their integration does not work, as the > afs token can not be obtained. > > We have tried with both OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3100) and AuriStor > OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3300). > > Nevertheless, if we operate in the command line, we can obtain kerberos > tickets and tokens without problems (using kinit and aklog). > > Any suggestion to make the integration and the GUI work properly? > > Giovanni > > -- > Giovanni Bracco > DTE-ICT-HPC > ENEA > Via E. Fermi 45 > I-00044 Frascati (Roma) Italy > phone +39-06-9400-5597 mobile +39-3351992144 > FAX +39-06-9400-5735 > E-mail giovanni.bracco@enea.it > WWW http://www.afs.enea.it/bracco > _______________________________________________ > OpenAFS-info mailing list > OpenAFS-info@openafs.org > https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info From botsch@cnf.cornell.edu Tue Nov 28 19:28:03 2017 From: botsch@cnf.cornell.edu (Dave Botsch) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 14:28:03 -0500 Subject: [OpenAFS] windows server 2012 64 bit and integrated authentication with AFS token? In-Reply-To: References: <16000f41b70.27ea.7e7218444f75578ebec1b7dbb1486319@cnf.cornell.edu> Message-ID: <20171128192803.GS15420@cnf.cornell.edu> Hi. What's the full message that is displayed (screenshot) ? That sometimes gives an error code or message that tells you what went wrong after the end result error.=20 For the Windows client, you can also turn on additional debugging for the OpenAFS service to log what it does as it goes through trying to get credentials at login. Thanks. On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:43:20AM +0100, Giovanni Ponti wrote: > Dear Dave, >=20 > thanks for your reply. >=20 > The prompted popup message has the title "Failed to get credential > for ..." with the message "Credential could not be obtained for cell > ...". However, after closing the popup message, I can see that I > have obtained the ticket in the Network Identity Manager windows. >=20 > Thanks again, > Giovanni >=20 > On 28/11/2017 05:48, Dave Botsch wrote: > >Does the integrated login pop up a fail error msg? If so, what? > > > >Thanks. > > > > > >On November 27, 2017 15:05:54 Giovanni Bracco > > wrote: > > > >>hello! > >>we are trying to install and configure OpenAFS client on a Windows > >>Server machine (vers. 2012 R2 build 9600 x86_64). > >> > >>We have installed Kerberos MIT client (vers. 3.22) and we are able to > >>obtain kerberos tickets for a principal from both the IdentityManager > >>GUI and the Window command line interface, using kinit. > >> > >>In the next step, we have installed AFS client and the Kerberos > >>IdentityManager detects it, but their integration does not work, as t= he > >>afs token can not be obtained. > >> > >>We have tried with both OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3100) and AuriStor > >>OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3300). > >> > >>Nevertheless, if we operate in the command line, we can obtain kerber= os > >>tickets and tokens without problems (using kinit and aklog). > >> > >>Any suggestion to=A0 make the integration and the GUI work properly? > >> > >>Giovanni > >> > >>--=20 > >>Giovanni Bracco > >>DTE-ICT-HPC > >>ENEA > >>Via E. Fermi 45 > >>I-00044 Frascati (Roma) Italy > >>phone +39-06-9400-5597=A0 mobile +39-3351992144 > >>FAX=A0=A0 +39-06-9400-5735 > >>E-mail=A0 giovanni.bracco@enea.it > >>WWW http://www.afs.enea.it/bracco > >>_______________________________________________ > >>OpenAFS-info mailing list > >>OpenAFS-info@openafs.org > >>https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info > > > > >=20 > --=20 > Ing. Giovanni Ponti, PhD > DTE-ICT-HPC > ENEA - C.R. Portici > P.le E. Fermi, 1 (Loc. Granatello) > 80055 Portici (NA), Italy > phone : (+39) 081-7723564 | int.: [89] 2564 > fax : (+39) 081-7723344 > email : giovanni.ponti@enea.it > web : http://www.afs.enea.it/gponti --=20 ******************************** David William Botsch Programmer/Analyst @CNFComputing botsch@cnf.cornell.edu ******************************** From karl.behler@ipp.mpg.de Tue Nov 28 21:03:15 2017 From: karl.behler@ipp.mpg.de (Karl Behler (IPP)) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 22:03:15 +0100 Subject: [OpenAFS] Phasing out as buildbot admin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <270d6206-9d6a-3608-1d79-d2c847be266d@ipp.mpg.de> Hi Jason, I'm more or less a silent listener on this list (but an active AFS user). I appreciate your past commitment (and the ongoing of your fellow and successor "activists") very much. Hope you will have a good time beeing free now. All the best, Karl Am 26.11.2017 um 15:40 schrieb Jason Edgecombe: > Hi everyone, > > I want to let everyone know that I'm phasing out as the buildbot > admin. I haven't been doing much with it lately, and I'd rather hand > it off to someone else that is more involved. Please direct all of > your buildbot communication to Benjamin Kaduk and > Michael Meffie . I'll still be around, but > I'll mostly be lurking. It's been a pleasure to work with everyone, > and I wish everyone the best. > > Sincerely, > > Jason > > _______________________________________________ > OpenAFS-info mailing list > OpenAFS-info@openafs.org > https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info -- Dr. Karl Behler, E1 CODAC MPI f. Plasmaphysik Boltzmannstr. 2 85748 Garching +49 89 3299-1351 From botsch@cnf.cornell.edu Wed Nov 29 15:53:21 2017 From: botsch@cnf.cornell.edu (Dave Botsch) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 10:53:21 -0500 Subject: [OpenAFS] windows server 2012 64 bit and integrated authentication with AFS token? In-Reply-To: <7bc20de5-6471-c0d7-5919-e6e9505cf30e@enea.it> References: <16000f41b70.27ea.7e7218444f75578ebec1b7dbb1486319@cnf.cornell.edu> <20171128192803.GS15420@cnf.cornell.edu> <7bc20de5-6471-c0d7-5919-e6e9505cf30e@enea.it> Message-ID: <20171129155321.GW15420@cnf.cornell.edu> That's the integrated login message that pops up? What version of KfW did you say you have installed? Thanks. On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 04:39:33PM +0100, Giovanni Ponti wrote: > Dear Dave, >=20 > the message I've reported is the full one. I simply avoid to report > my nickname and the cell name. However, you can find the screenshot > in attached. >=20 > Regards, > Giovanni >=20 > On 28/11/2017 20:28, Dave Botsch wrote: > >Hi. > > > >What's the full message that is displayed (screenshot) ? > > > >That sometimes gives an error code or message that tells you what went > >wrong after the end result error. > > > >For the Windows client, you can also turn on additional debugging for > >the OpenAFS service to log what it does as it goes through trying to g= et > >credentials at login. > > > >Thanks. > > > >On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:43:20AM +0100, Giovanni Ponti wrote: > >>Dear Dave, > >> > >>thanks for your reply. > >> > >>The prompted popup message has the title "Failed to get credential > >>for ..." with the message "Credential could not be obtained for cell > >>...". However, after closing the popup message, I can see that I > >>have obtained the ticket in the Network Identity Manager windows. > >> > >>Thanks again, > >>Giovanni > >> > >>On 28/11/2017 05:48, Dave Botsch wrote: > >>>Does the integrated login pop up a fail error msg? If so, what? > >>> > >>>Thanks. > >>> > >>> > >>>On November 27, 2017 15:05:54 Giovanni Bracco > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>>hello! > >>>>we are trying to install and configure OpenAFS client on a Windows > >>>>Server machine (vers. 2012 R2 build 9600 x86_64). > >>>> > >>>>We have installed Kerberos MIT client (vers. 3.22) and we are able = to > >>>>obtain kerberos tickets for a principal from both the IdentityManag= er > >>>>GUI and the Window command line interface, using kinit. > >>>> > >>>>In the next step, we have installed AFS client and the Kerberos > >>>>IdentityManager detects it, but their integration does not work, as= the > >>>>afs token can not be obtained. > >>>> > >>>>We have tried with both OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3100) and AuriSto= r > >>>>OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3300). > >>>> > >>>>Nevertheless, if we operate in the command line, we can obtain kerb= eros > >>>>tickets and tokens without problems (using kinit and aklog). > >>>> > >>>>Any suggestion to=A0 make the integration and the GUI work properly= ? > >>>> > >>>>Giovanni > >>>> > >>>>--=20 > >>>>Giovanni Bracco > >>>>DTE-ICT-HPC > >>>>ENEA > >>>>Via E. Fermi 45 > >>>>I-00044 Frascati (Roma) Italy > >>>>phone +39-06-9400-5597=A0 mobile +39-3351992144 > >>>>FAX=A0=A0 +39-06-9400-5735 > >>>>E-mail=A0 giovanni.bracco@enea.it > >>>>WWW http://www.afs.enea.it/bracco > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>OpenAFS-info mailing list > >>>>OpenAFS-info@openafs.org > >>>>https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info > >>> > >>> > >> > >>--=20 > >>Ing. Giovanni Ponti, PhD > >>DTE-ICT-HPC > >>ENEA - C.R. Portici > >>P.le E. Fermi, 1 (Loc. Granatello) > >>80055 Portici (NA), Italy > >>phone : (+39) 081-7723564 | int.: [89] 2564 > >>fax : (+39) 081-7723344 > >>email : giovanni.ponti@enea.it > >>web : http://www.afs.enea.it/gponti > > >=20 > --=20 > Ing. Giovanni Ponti, PhD > DTE-ICT-HPC > ENEA - C.R. Portici > P.le E. Fermi, 1 (Loc. Granatello) > 80055 Portici (NA), Italy > phone : (+39) 081-7723564 | int.: [89] 2564 > fax : (+39) 081-7723344 > email : giovanni.ponti@enea.it > web : http://www.afs.enea.it/gponti --=20 ******************************** David William Botsch Programmer/Analyst @CNFComputing botsch@cnf.cornell.edu ******************************** From andreas.ladanyi@kit.edu Wed Nov 29 16:02:35 2017 From: andreas.ladanyi@kit.edu (Andreas Ladanyi) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:02:35 +0100 Subject: [OpenAFS] Windows 10 Pro and OpenAFS Client Message-ID: <978819f6-a58b-6fd9-6bc2-9cf9ccfa0b86@kit.edu> Hi, what is your experience with Windows 10 Pro and the latest package OpenAFS for Windows ? Is there any special what i have to consider at OpenAFS for Windows setup and at daily operating on the client ? Regards, Andreas From l.schimmer@cgv.tugraz.at Thu Nov 30 08:19:32 2017 From: l.schimmer@cgv.tugraz.at (Lars Schimmer) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 09:19:32 +0100 Subject: [OpenAFS] Windows 10 Pro and OpenAFS Client In-Reply-To: <978819f6-a58b-6fd9-6bc2-9cf9ccfa0b86@kit.edu> References: <978819f6-a58b-6fd9-6bc2-9cf9ccfa0b86@kit.edu> Message-ID: <460bdbd2-0b89-b8de-4fe4-2aa8f6a737f4@cgv.tugraz.at> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --eDQpflCpjL8sw2WjrkPkCArMqdmgDH2Lh Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="9GTAaVp3iv8dr5I1wDSO5el9s26oKLnCd"; protected-headers="v1" From: Lars Schimmer To: openafs-info@openafs.org Message-ID: <460bdbd2-0b89-b8de-4fe4-2aa8f6a737f4@cgv.tugraz.at> Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Windows 10 Pro and OpenAFS Client References: <978819f6-a58b-6fd9-6bc2-9cf9ccfa0b86@kit.edu> In-Reply-To: <978819f6-a58b-6fd9-6bc2-9cf9ccfa0b86@kit.edu> --9GTAaVp3iv8dr5I1wDSO5el9s26oKLnCd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-AT Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017-11-29 17:02, Andreas Ladanyi wrote: > Hi, >=20 > what is your experience with Windows 10 Pro and the latest package > OpenAFS for Windows ? >=20 > Is there any special what i have to consider at OpenAFS for Windows > setup and at daily operating on the client ? Worked fine over here for years now. Depending on your setup of the cell you do/do not need integrated login and some other special options. In general you just need to enter your cell name and it works quite well. But take care, depending on the setup of your windows (secure boot,etc.) OpenAFS will no more work on windows after 31.12.2017, as the kernel module has no more a valid signature (in the def. of MS). > Regards, >=20 > Andreas >=20 > _______________________________________________ > OpenAFS-info mailing list > OpenAFS-info@openafs.org > https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info >=20 MfG, Lars Schimmer --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- TU Graz, Institut f=C3=BCr ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: l.schimmer@cgv.tugraz.at Fax: +43 316 873-5402 PGP-Key-ID: 0x4A9B1723 --9GTAaVp3iv8dr5I1wDSO5el9s26oKLnCd-- --eDQpflCpjL8sw2WjrkPkCArMqdmgDH2Lh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQR0wxkJRmamY9krY7GZaG4TSpsXIwUCWh+/FAAKCRCZaG4TSpsX I2PSAJ9jzM3u/7MMpQvOTtRDNoJR/3UJeACdH8U/5V43lwzxWHXoGI88nIqv+V4= =sg2i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eDQpflCpjL8sw2WjrkPkCArMqdmgDH2Lh-- From andreas.ladanyi@kit.edu Thu Nov 30 10:10:28 2017 From: andreas.ladanyi@kit.edu (Andreas Ladanyi) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:10:28 +0100 Subject: [OpenAFS] Windows 10 Pro and OpenAFS Client In-Reply-To: <460bdbd2-0b89-b8de-4fe4-2aa8f6a737f4@cgv.tugraz.at> References: <978819f6-a58b-6fd9-6bc2-9cf9ccfa0b86@kit.edu> <460bdbd2-0b89-b8de-4fe4-2aa8f6a737f4@cgv.tugraz.at> Message-ID: Hi Lars, > On 2017-11-29 17:02, Andreas Ladanyi wrote: >> Hi, >> >> what is your experience with Windows 10 Pro and the latest package >> OpenAFS for Windows ? >> >> Is there any special what i have to consider at OpenAFS for Windows >> setup and at daily operating on the client ? > Worked fine over here for years now. Depending on your setup of the cell > you do/do not need integrated login and some other special options. In > general you just need to enter your cell name and it works quite well. > > But take care, depending on the setup of your windows (secure boot,etc.) > OpenAFS will no more work on windows after 31.12.2017, as the kernel > module has no more a valid signature (in the def. of MS). Ok, so do i have to setup a new Windows 10 on the new system with legacy Boot and turn off driver verification in future setups ? cheers and thanks, Andreas > >> Regards, >> >> Andreas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenAFS-info mailing list >> OpenAFS-info@openafs.org >> https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info >> > > MfG, > Lars Schimmer From giovanni.ponti@enea.it Tue Nov 28 10:43:20 2017 From: giovanni.ponti@enea.it (Giovanni Ponti) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 11:43:20 +0100 Subject: [OpenAFS] windows server 2012 64 bit and integrated authentication with AFS token? In-Reply-To: <16000f41b70.27ea.7e7218444f75578ebec1b7dbb1486319@cnf.cornell.edu> References: <16000f41b70.27ea.7e7218444f75578ebec1b7dbb1486319@cnf.cornell.edu> Message-ID: Dear Dave, thanks for your reply. The prompted popup message has the title "Failed to get credential for ..." with the message "Credential could not be obtained for cell ...". However, after closing the popup message, I can see that I have obtained the ticket in the Network Identity Manager windows. Thanks again, Giovanni On 28/11/2017 05:48, Dave Botsch wrote: > Does the integrated login pop up a fail error msg? If so, what? > > Thanks. > > > On November 27, 2017 15:05:54 Giovanni Bracco > wrote: > >> hello! >> we are trying to install and configure OpenAFS client on a Windows >> Server machine (vers. 2012 R2 build 9600 x86_64). >> >> We have installed Kerberos MIT client (vers. 3.22) and we are able to >> obtain kerberos tickets for a principal from both the IdentityManager >> GUI and the Window command line interface, using kinit. >> >> In the next step, we have installed AFS client and the Kerberos >> IdentityManager detects it, but their integration does not work, as the >> afs token can not be obtained. >> >> We have tried with both OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3100) and AuriStor >> OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3300). >> >> Nevertheless, if we operate in the command line, we can obtain kerberos >> tickets and tokens without problems (using kinit and aklog). >> >> Any suggestion to  make the integration and the GUI work properly? >> >> Giovanni >> >> -- >> Giovanni Bracco >> DTE-ICT-HPC >> ENEA >> Via E. Fermi 45 >> I-00044 Frascati (Roma) Italy >> phone +39-06-9400-5597  mobile +39-3351992144 >> FAX   +39-06-9400-5735 >> E-mail  giovanni.bracco@enea.it >> WWW http://www.afs.enea.it/bracco >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenAFS-info mailing list >> OpenAFS-info@openafs.org >> https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info > > -- Ing. Giovanni Ponti, PhD DTE-ICT-HPC ENEA - C.R. Portici P.le E. Fermi, 1 (Loc. Granatello) 80055 Portici (NA), Italy phone : (+39) 081-7723564 | int.: [89] 2564 fax : (+39) 081-7723344 email : giovanni.ponti@enea.it web : http://www.afs.enea.it/gponti From giovanni.ponti@enea.it Wed Nov 29 15:39:33 2017 From: giovanni.ponti@enea.it (Giovanni Ponti) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:39:33 +0100 Subject: [OpenAFS] windows server 2012 64 bit and integrated authentication with AFS token? In-Reply-To: <20171128192803.GS15420@cnf.cornell.edu> References: <16000f41b70.27ea.7e7218444f75578ebec1b7dbb1486319@cnf.cornell.edu> <20171128192803.GS15420@cnf.cornell.edu> Message-ID: <7bc20de5-6471-c0d7-5919-e6e9505cf30e@enea.it> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EF51F34782A22A6BBABD0212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Dave, the message I've reported is the full one. I simply avoid to report my nickname and the cell name. However, you can find the screenshot in attached. Regards, Giovanni On 28/11/2017 20:28, Dave Botsch wrote: > Hi. > > What's the full message that is displayed (screenshot) ? > > That sometimes gives an error code or message that tells you what went > wrong after the end result error. > > For the Windows client, you can also turn on additional debugging for > the OpenAFS service to log what it does as it goes through trying to get > credentials at login. > > Thanks. > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:43:20AM +0100, Giovanni Ponti wrote: >> Dear Dave, >> >> thanks for your reply. >> >> The prompted popup message has the title "Failed to get credential >> for ..." with the message "Credential could not be obtained for cell >> ...". However, after closing the popup message, I can see that I >> have obtained the ticket in the Network Identity Manager windows. >> >> Thanks again, >> Giovanni >> >> On 28/11/2017 05:48, Dave Botsch wrote: >>> Does the integrated login pop up a fail error msg? If so, what? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> On November 27, 2017 15:05:54 Giovanni Bracco >>> wrote: >>> >>>> hello! >>>> we are trying to install and configure OpenAFS client on a Windows >>>> Server machine (vers. 2012 R2 build 9600 x86_64). >>>> >>>> We have installed Kerberos MIT client (vers. 3.22) and we are able to >>>> obtain kerberos tickets for a principal from both the IdentityManager >>>> GUI and the Window command line interface, using kinit. >>>> >>>> In the next step, we have installed AFS client and the Kerberos >>>> IdentityManager detects it, but their integration does not work, as the >>>> afs token can not be obtained. >>>> >>>> We have tried with both OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3100) and AuriStor >>>> OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3300). >>>> >>>> Nevertheless, if we operate in the command line, we can obtain kerberos >>>> tickets and tokens without problems (using kinit and aklog). >>>> >>>> Any suggestion to  make the integration and the GUI work properly? >>>> >>>> Giovanni >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Giovanni Bracco >>>> DTE-ICT-HPC >>>> ENEA >>>> Via E. Fermi 45 >>>> I-00044 Frascati (Roma) Italy >>>> phone +39-06-9400-5597  mobile +39-3351992144 >>>> FAX   +39-06-9400-5735 >>>> E-mail  giovanni.bracco@enea.it >>>> WWW http://www.afs.enea.it/bracco >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OpenAFS-info mailing list >>>> OpenAFS-info@openafs.org >>>> https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Ing. Giovanni Ponti, PhD >> DTE-ICT-HPC >> ENEA - C.R. Portici >> P.le E. Fermi, 1 (Loc. Granatello) >> 80055 Portici (NA), Italy >> phone : (+39) 081-7723564 | int.: [89] 2564 >> fax : (+39) 081-7723344 >> email : giovanni.ponti@enea.it >> web : http://www.afs.enea.it/gponti > -- Ing. Giovanni Ponti, PhD DTE-ICT-HPC ENEA - C.R. Portici P.le E. Fermi, 1 (Loc. 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In-Reply-To: <20171129155321.GW15420@cnf.cornell.edu> References: <16000f41b70.27ea.7e7218444f75578ebec1b7dbb1486319@cnf.cornell.edu> <20171128192803.GS15420@cnf.cornell.edu> <7bc20de5-6471-c0d7-5919-e6e9505cf30e@enea.it> <20171129155321.GW15420@cnf.cornell.edu> Message-ID: <0841ae32-7ec5-6078-617d-e6eb37dc0f8d@enea.it> Yes! The version is the 3.22 from MIT. I've also tried with the newest one (i.e., the 4.1), but with this I cannot obtain tickets! Thanks, Giovanni On 29/11/2017 16:53, Dave Botsch wrote: > That's the integrated login message that pops up? > > What version of KfW did you say you have installed? > > Thanks. > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 04:39:33PM +0100, Giovanni Ponti wrote: >> Dear Dave, >> >> the message I've reported is the full one. I simply avoid to report >> my nickname and the cell name. However, you can find the screenshot >> in attached. >> >> Regards, >> Giovanni >> >> On 28/11/2017 20:28, Dave Botsch wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> What's the full message that is displayed (screenshot) ? >>> >>> That sometimes gives an error code or message that tells you what went >>> wrong after the end result error. >>> >>> For the Windows client, you can also turn on additional debugging for >>> the OpenAFS service to log what it does as it goes through trying to get >>> credentials at login. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:43:20AM +0100, Giovanni Ponti wrote: >>>> Dear Dave, >>>> >>>> thanks for your reply. >>>> >>>> The prompted popup message has the title "Failed to get credential >>>> for ..." with the message "Credential could not be obtained for cell >>>> ...". However, after closing the popup message, I can see that I >>>> have obtained the ticket in the Network Identity Manager windows. >>>> >>>> Thanks again, >>>> Giovanni >>>> >>>> On 28/11/2017 05:48, Dave Botsch wrote: >>>>> Does the integrated login pop up a fail error msg? If so, what? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On November 27, 2017 15:05:54 Giovanni Bracco >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hello! >>>>>> we are trying to install and configure OpenAFS client on a Windows >>>>>> Server machine (vers. 2012 R2 build 9600 x86_64). >>>>>> >>>>>> We have installed Kerberos MIT client (vers. 3.22) and we are able to >>>>>> obtain kerberos tickets for a principal from both the IdentityManager >>>>>> GUI and the Window command line interface, using kinit. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the next step, we have installed AFS client and the Kerberos >>>>>> IdentityManager detects it, but their integration does not work, as the >>>>>> afs token can not be obtained. >>>>>> >>>>>> We have tried with both OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3100) and AuriStor >>>>>> OpenAFS client (vers. 1.7.3300). >>>>>> >>>>>> Nevertheless, if we operate in the command line, we can obtain kerberos >>>>>> tickets and tokens without problems (using kinit and aklog). >>>>>> >>>>>> Any suggestion to  make the integration and the GUI work properly? >>>>>> >>>>>> Giovanni >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Giovanni Bracco >>>>>> DTE-ICT-HPC >>>>>> ENEA >>>>>> Via E. Fermi 45 >>>>>> I-00044 Frascati (Roma) Italy >>>>>> phone +39-06-9400-5597  mobile +39-3351992144 >>>>>> FAX   +39-06-9400-5735 >>>>>> E-mail  giovanni.bracco@enea.it >>>>>> WWW http://www.afs.enea.it/bracco >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OpenAFS-info mailing list >>>>>> OpenAFS-info@openafs.org >>>>>> https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ing. Giovanni Ponti, PhD >>>> DTE-ICT-HPC >>>> ENEA - C.R. Portici >>>> P.le E. Fermi, 1 (Loc. Granatello) >>>> 80055 Portici (NA), Italy >>>> phone : (+39) 081-7723564 | int.: [89] 2564 >>>> fax : (+39) 081-7723344 >>>> email : giovanni.ponti@enea.it >>>> web : http://www.afs.enea.it/gponti >>> >> >> -- >> Ing. Giovanni Ponti, PhD >> DTE-ICT-HPC >> ENEA - C.R. Portici >> P.le E. Fermi, 1 (Loc. Granatello) >> 80055 Portici (NA), Italy >> phone : (+39) 081-7723564 | int.: [89] 2564 >> fax : (+39) 081-7723344 >> email : giovanni.ponti@enea.it >> web : http://www.afs.enea.it/gponti > > > -- Ing. Giovanni Ponti, PhD DTE-ICT-HPC ENEA - C.R. Portici P.le E. Fermi, 1 (Loc. Granatello) 80055 Portici (NA), Italy phone : (+39) 081-7723564 | int.: [89] 2564 fax : (+39) 081-7723344 email : giovanni.ponti@enea.it web : http://www.afs.enea.it/gponti