From Claudio.Bisegni@lnf.infn.it Wed Sep 12 07:51:52 2007 From: Claudio.Bisegni@lnf.infn.it (Claudio Bisegni) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:51:52 +0200 Subject: [OpenAFS-port-darwin] Think about an afs cocoa Framework Message-ID: <7EA73A56-C938-46F4-BB1E-F05577C92BFA@lnf.infn.it> --Apple-Mail-2-819314806 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-819314642 --Apple-Mail-1-819314642 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi to all folk of the lists i hope you have had a beautiful summer holiday. In august with Dave (Botsch) we have talked about an idea, encapsulate a part of useful afs api into a cocoa framework! So if this framework is compiled in main afs package, application that use framework don't require to be recompiled. I would know the other user of the list about this idea. Best Reguards ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------- Claudio Bisegni Computing Service www: http://www.lnf.infn.it/~bisegni LNF-INFN e-mail: claudio.bisegni at lnf.infn.it AFS Commander: http://www.lnf.infn.it/~bisegni/Main/Afs% 20Commander.html --Apple-Mail-1-819314642 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi to all folk of the lists
i hope you have had a beautiful summer = holiday. In august with Dave(Botsch) we have talked about an idea, = encapsulate a part of useful afs api into a cocoa = framework!=A0
So if this framework is compiled in main afs = package, application that use framework don't require to be = recompiled.

I = would know the other user of the list about this = idea.=A0

Best Reguards


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In august with > Dave(Botsch) we have talked about an idea, encapsulate a part of > useful afs api into a cocoa framework! > So if this framework is compiled in main afs package, application that > use framework don't require to be recompiled. Frameworks are appropriate for public APIs that are meant to be used by third party applications. As part of the implied contract associated with a framework is that the author will never remove or change functionality from it. I do not believe that enough thought has gone into the existing AFS APIs to be able to say what will or will not require change. The library that is most applicable for framework consideration is libadmin but even that library contains numerous functions that I know need to be changed. Anything that references kauth is going to have to change. While a framework is definitely a good idea, it is probably premature. 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--------------ms060103000305010902070003-- From Claudio.Bisegni@lnf.infn.it Wed Sep 12 13:47:59 2007 From: Claudio.Bisegni@lnf.infn.it (Claudio Bisegni) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:47:59 +0200 Subject: [OpenAFS-port-darwin] Think about an afs cocoa Framework In-Reply-To: <46E7DE33.50704@secure-endpoints.com> References: <7EA73A56-C938-46F4-BB1E-F05577C92BFA@lnf.infn.it> <46E7DE33.50704@secure-endpoints.com> Message-ID: <9A1DE4E2-035C-455B-BA17-1AB638688C7F@lnf.infn.it> --Apple-Mail-9-840682423 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-840682287 --Apple-Mail-8-840682287 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Jeffrey In effect i was thinking about klog/aklog, configuration, memory cache param... and other usefull api In the start it would be very short set of api. Claudio On 12/set/07, at 14:40, Jeffrey Altman wrote: > Claudio Bisegni wrote: >> Hi to all folk of the lists >> i hope you have had a beautiful summer holiday. In august with >> Dave(Botsch) we have talked about an idea, encapsulate a part of >> useful afs api into a cocoa framework! >> So if this framework is compiled in main afs package, application >> that >> use framework don't require to be recompiled. > Frameworks are appropriate for public APIs that are meant to be > used by > third party applications. As part of the implied contract associated > with a framework is that the author will never remove or change > functionality from it. I do not believe that enough thought has gone > into the existing AFS APIs to be able to say what will or will not > require change. > > The library that is most applicable for framework consideration is > libadmin but even that library contains numerous functions that I know > need to be changed. Anything that references kauth is going to > have to > change. > > While a framework is definitely a good idea, it is probably premature. > > Jeffrey Altman > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------- Claudio Bisegni phone: (+39)-06-9403.2345 Computing Service fax: (+39)-06-9403.2649 LNF-INFN e-mail: claudio.bisegni@lnf.infn.it Via Enrico Fermi, 40 www: http://www.lnf.infn.it/~bisegni I-00044 Frascati, Italy --Apple-Mail-8-840682287 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi Jeffrey
In effect i was thinking about klog/aklog, = configuration, memory cache param... and other usefull api
In the = start it would be very short set of api.

Claudio
On = 12/set/07, at 14:40, Jeffrey Altman wrote:

Claudio Bisegni wrote:
Hi to all folk of the = lists
i hope you have had a beautiful = summer holiday. In august with
Dave(Botsch) = we have talked about an idea, encapsulate a part of
useful afs api into a cocoa framework!=A0
So if = this framework is compiled in main afs package, application = that
use framework don't require to = be recompiled.
Frameworks = are appropriate for public APIs that are meant to be used by
third party applications.=A0 As part of the implied = contract associated
with a framework is that = the author will never remove or change
=A0 = I do not believe that enough thought has gone
into the existing AFS APIs to be able to say what = will or will not
require change.

The = library that is most applicable for framework consideration is
libadmin but even that library contains numerous = functions that I know
need to be changed.=A0 Anything that references = kauth is going to have to
change. =A0

While a = framework is definitely a good idea, it is probably premature.

Jeffrey = Altman

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Getting and setting tokens we already know is going to have to change to support rxk5 and rxgk. 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I must wait a certain level of stability of api? On 12/set/07, at 14:55, Jeffrey Altman wrote: > Claudio Bisegni wrote: >> Hi Jeffrey >> In effect i was thinking about klog/aklog, configuration, memory >> cache >> param... and other usefull api >> In the start it would be very short set of api. >> >> Claudio > Exactly the set of APIs that undergo the most frequent change because > there is so much that needs to be done to improve them. Getting and > setting tokens we already know is going to have to change to support > rxk5 and rxgk. Anything that has kerb4 (kauth) dependencies is going > to have to be changed because the plan is to remove them. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------- Claudio Bisegni phone: (+39)-06-9403.2345 Computing Service fax: (+39)-06-9403.2649 LNF-INFN e-mail: claudio.bisegni@lnf.infn.it Via Enrico Fermi, 40 www: http://www.lnf.infn.it/~bisegni I-00044 Frascati, Italy --Apple-Mail-12-841420770 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ok i have mean,=A0
for my preference pane, id like to use api for = all operation instead script. I must=A0wait=A0a certain level of = stability of api?

On 12/set/07, at 14:55, = Jeffrey Altman wrote:

Claudio Bisegni wrote:
Hi Jeffrey
In effect i was thinking about klog/aklog, = configuration, memory cache
param... and = other usefull api
In the start it would be very = short set of api.

Claudio
Exactly = the set of APIs that undergo the most frequent change because
there is so much that needs to be done to improve = them. =A0 Getting = and
setting tokens we already know = is going to have to change to support
rxk5 and = rxgk. =A0 Anything that has = kerb4 (kauth) dependencies is going
to have to be = changed because the plan is to remove them.




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On 9/12/07, Claudio Bisegni <Claudio.Bisegni@lnf.infn.it> wrote:
Ok i have mean, 
for my preference pane, id like to use api for all operation instead script. I must wait a certain level of stability of api?

you can use the api with have without implying it's stable by issuing a framework. use a private framework if you must.
 


------=_Part_1874_24772345.1189602650838-- From jaltman@secure-endpoints.com Wed Sep 12 14:13:04 2007 From: jaltman@secure-endpoints.com (Jeffrey Altman) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:13:04 -0400 Subject: [OpenAFS-port-darwin] Think about an afs cocoa Framework In-Reply-To: References: <7EA73A56-C938-46F4-BB1E-F05577C92BFA@lnf.infn.it> <46E7DE33.50704@secure-endpoints.com> <9A1DE4E2-035C-455B-BA17-1AB638688C7F@lnf.infn.it> <46E7E1AA.4000906@secure-endpoints.com> Message-ID: <46E7E5E0.2010807@secure-endpoints.com> This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000305020102070009060708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Claudio Bisegni wrote: > Ok i have mean, > for my preference pane, id like to use api for all operation instead > script. I must wait a certain level of stability of api? There are APIs. There are not frameworks. APIs can change. 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--------------ms000305020102070009060708-- From Claudio.Bisegni@lnf.infn.it Wed Sep 12 14:20:33 2007 From: Claudio.Bisegni@lnf.infn.it (Claudio Bisegni) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:20:33 +0200 Subject: [OpenAFS-port-darwin] Think about an afs cocoa Framework In-Reply-To: References: <7EA73A56-C938-46F4-BB1E-F05577C92BFA@lnf.infn.it> <46E7DE33.50704@secure-endpoints.com> <9A1DE4E2-035C-455B-BA17-1AB638688C7F@lnf.infn.it> <46E7E1AA.4000906@secure-endpoints.com> Message-ID: <1DE263ED-D87D-409E-9A52-ABED319791B9@lnf.infn.it> --Apple-Mail-19-842635957 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-18-842635817 --Apple-Mail-18-842635817 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Yes i'll do this, but i was thinking that this private framework would be useful also for other people. On 12/set/07, at 15:10, Derrick Brashear wrote: > > > On 9/12/07, Claudio Bisegni wrote: > Ok i have mean, > for my preference pane, id like to use api for all operation > instead script. I must wait a certain level of stability of api? > > you can use the api with have without implying it's stable by > issuing a framework. use a private framework if you must. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------- Claudio Bisegni phone: (+39)-06-9403.2345 Computing Service fax: (+39)-06-9403.2649 LNF-INFN e-mail: claudio.bisegni@lnf.infn.it Via Enrico Fermi, 40 www: http://www.lnf.infn.it/~bisegni I-00044 Frascati, Italy --Apple-Mail-18-842635817 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes i'll do this, but i was thinking that this private framework would = be=A0useful=A0also for other people.


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From Claudio.Bisegni@lnf.infn.it Thu Sep 13 14:29:09 2007 From: Claudio.Bisegni@lnf.infn.it (Claudio Bisegni) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:29:09 +0200 Subject: [OpenAFS-port-darwin] Think about an afs cocoa Framework In-Reply-To: <46E7DE33.50704@secure-endpoints.com> References: <7EA73A56-C938-46F4-BB1E-F05577C92BFA@lnf.infn.it> <46E7DE33.50704@secure-endpoints.com> Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-4-929552282 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-929552143 --Apple-Mail-3-929552143 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Yes it's true. On 12/set/07, at 14:40, Jeffrey Altman wrote: > Claudio Bisegni wrote: >> Hi to all folk of the lists >> i hope you have had a beautiful summer holiday. In august with >> Dave(Botsch) we have talked about an idea, encapsulate a part of >> useful afs api into a cocoa framework! >> So if this framework is compiled in main afs package, application >> that >> use framework don't require to be recompiled. > Frameworks are appropriate for public APIs that are meant to be > used by > third party applications. As part of the implied contract associated > with a framework is that the author will never remove or change > functionality from it. I do not believe that enough thought has gone > into the existing AFS APIs to be able to say what will or will not > require change. > > The library that is most applicable for framework consideration is > libadmin but even that library contains numerous functions that I know > need to be changed. Anything that references kauth is going to > have to > change. > > While a framework is definitely a good idea, it is probably premature. > > Jeffrey Altman > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------- Claudio Bisegni phone: (+39)-06-9403.2345 Computing Service fax: (+39)-06-9403.2649 LNF-INFN e-mail: claudio.bisegni@lnf.infn.it Via Enrico Fermi, 40 www: http://www.lnf.infn.it/~bisegni I-00044 Frascati, Italy --Apple-Mail-3-929552143 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes it's true.

On 12/set/07, at 14:40, Jeffrey Altman = wrote:

Claudio Bisegni wrote:
=
Hi to all folk of the = lists
i hope you have had a beautiful = summer holiday. In august with
Dave(Botsch) = we have talked about an idea, encapsulate a part of
useful afs api into a cocoa framework!=A0
So if = this framework is compiled in main afs package, application = that
use framework don't require to = be recompiled.
Frameworks = are appropriate for public APIs that are meant to be used by
third party applications.=A0 As part of the implied = contract associated
with a framework is that = the author will never remove or change
=A0 = I do not believe that enough thought has gone
into the existing AFS APIs to be able to say what = will or will not
require change.

The = library that is most applicable for framework consideration is
libadmin but even that library contains numerous = functions that I know
need to be changed.=A0 Anything that references = kauth is going to have to
change. =A0

While a = framework is definitely a good idea, it is probably premature.

Jeffrey = Altman

=

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However, it is our intention to have a client for each MacOS X operating system release on the day of its release. 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--------------ms060107060606000109040009-- From shadow@dementia.org Tue Sep 25 15:45:03 2007 From: shadow@dementia.org (Derrick J Brashear) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OpenAFS-port-darwin] OpenAFS client for Mac OS 10.5 (Leopard) In-Reply-To: <46F91C74.4030605@secure-endpoints.com> References: <92B0B6E6-5E60-4668-B60E-16EB520F9FE9@mit.edu> <46F91C74.4030605@secure-endpoints.com> Message-ID: The instructions for 10.4 are ARCHFLAGS="-arch i386 -arch ppc" ./configure --enable-transarc-paths --with-krb5-conf=/usr/bin/krb5-config ARCHFLAGS="-arch i386 -arch ppc" make dest sudo make packages The instructions for 10.3 were similar. Patterns are good. > Duncan Kincaid wrote: >> Sirs/Madams >> >> For months I have been scouring openafs.org site for some evidence of >> leopard related work.