[AFS3-std] AFS Standardization Proposal

[Jeffrey Hutzelman]

--On Friday, July 25, 2008 11:48:36 AM -0400 Jeffrey Altman 
<jaltman@secure-endpoints.com> wrote:

> The discussion on gaming the system is a rat-hole.

Maybe, but I think it is important to have a better (less drastic) remedy 
to a bad decision made by a chair than to recall the chair.


> We are not a large
> enough community for this to have significant meaning to us.  If we end
> up with 100 individuals subscribed to this list I will be shocked.

Current subscribership includes mail-archive.com, gmane, and 67 individuals.

> I am a bit concerned about systems such as Nabble.  We do not want to
> permit the Nabble service to be used to send a vote and individuals who
> read via Nabble will not have a vote.  I believe it is reasonable to
> require a personal subscription to the list if one wants to be considered
> a voting eligible participant.

I don't think nabble or archive services should get a vote.  I also don't 
think people who are subscribed twice should get two votes.  But there are 
plenty of people who read via archive services or local exploders without 
ever being actually subscribed, and I'm not convinced we should 
disenfranchise them.

Particularly, I believe voting should be a right of active participants, 
not subscribed email addresses.  Put another way, the subscription list is 
configurating of the mailing list software, used to control how and where 
the messages are routed.  It may not be the best approach to overload it to 
have other meaning which would require it have contents different from what 
is required for its primary purpose.

One possible compromise would be to use the union of the subscription list 
on a given date and the list of people who have posted in some time period 
prior to that date.


> If we can't send an e-mail to you based upon the registered address on
> the specified date, then you can't vote.

No, absolutely not.  That is equivalent to saying "if your mail system 
happens to be broken on the specified date, then you can't vote".  If 
you're going to use the subscription list as part or all of the list of 
voters, then use it as-is, and let the mailing list software take care of 
removing stale entries.

-- Jeff