[Foundation-discuss] OpenAFS needs people

Todd DeSantis atd@us.ibm.com
Thu, 8 Oct 2015 13:48:29 -0400


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Hi Mark -

Thanks for this information.

Todd DeSantis





From:	Dave Botsch <botsch@cnf.cornell.edu>
To:	foundation-discuss@openafs.org
Date:	10/08/2015 11:46 AM
Subject:	Re: [Foundation-discuss] OpenAFS needs people
Sent by:	foundation-discuss-admin@openafs.org



So, one thing we need to get up on are what are the priorities?

Eg is finding someone to fill the various roles listed more important
than working on funding for a specific portion of OpenAFS?

Which role(s) are the most important? Are we looking at internal (oafs
community) vs external? Does it matter?

thanks.

On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 04:33:18PM +0000, Mark Vitale wrote:
> Dear OpenAFS Foundation members,
>
> I am writing to you to pass on some thoughts recently exchanged in a
recent OpenAFS release team meeting.  My goal is to represent these
thoughts accurately and objectively, but of course I will err or forget=

some things, so I'm counting on others who were present to add to and/o=
r
correct what I say here.
>
> Participants included:
> Stephan Weisand DESY
> Ben Kaduk		 Akamai
> Daria Brashear		 YFS
> Jeff Altman		 YFS
> Mike Meffie		 SNA
> Mark Vitale		 SNA
> Jeff Hutzleman		 CMU
> (Participants, please forgive me if I've omitted anyone...)
>
> Recently the OpenAFS community went through our well-defined process =
for
nominating and electing a new co-chair for the OpenAFS standardization
committee, Ben Kaduk.
>
> Unfortunately, there are several additional OpenAFS roles that need t=
o be
filled, but the process to fill them was handled by the now-disbanded
Elders.
>
> First of all, as the Foundation is already quite aware, the need for
additional gatekeepers has been growing more apparent as Russ Allbery, =
Ken
Dryer, and most recently Daria Brashear have all stepped down.   Jeff
Altman is the last remaining gatekeeper.  Additional maintainers are
Stephan Weisand ( 1.6.x release manager) and Ben Kaduk (1.8.x release
manager and de facto "gatekeeper").
>
> Some in the community have expressed the desire to rename the role
"gatekeeper" in an attempt to shed some the negative connotations
associated with that word.  But whatever the role is called, we need
additional people who are able to review, approve, and merge new work i=
nto
OpenAFS.
>
> Another role is OpenAFS security officer.  Simon Wilkinson recently
stepped down as security officer, and the position is currently empty. =
 In
my view (I speak only for myself here, not for the other participants),=

filling this position is even more critical than the need for more
maintainers.
>
> So in both cases ( "gatekeepers" and security officer ), we urgently =
need
the Foundation to:
> a) Establish a process for selecting these roles, including requireme=
nts,
responsibilities, and any remuneration the Board is willing to provide.=

> b) Actually impement the process to select people to fill these roles=
 as
soon as possible.
>
> I'll repeat my starting caveat:  although I'm trying to represent the=

collective desires of the stakeholders at that recent release team meet=
ing,
please take this as merely a starting point in the conversation.  We ar=
e
asking the Foundation Leadership to take note of these urgent requests =
and
accept the responsibility to work with the community to address them
quickly.
>
> Thanks for all your good work so far, and thanks in advance for your
efforts on our behalf.
>
> Sincerely,
> Mark Vitale
> OpenAFS release team
>  _______________________________________________
> Foundation-discuss mailing list
> Foundation-discuss@openafs.org
> http://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-discuss

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<tt><font size=3D"2">So, one thing we need to get up on are what are th=
e priorities?<br>
<br>
Eg is finding someone to fill the various roles listed more important<b=
r>
than working on funding for a specific portion of OpenAFS?<br>
<br>
Which role(s) are the most important? Are we looking at internal (oafs<=
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community) vs external? Does it matter?<br>
<br>
thanks.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 04:33:18PM +0000, Mark Vitale wrote:<br>
&gt; Dear OpenAFS Foundation members,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I am writing to you to pass on some thoughts recently exchanged in=
 a recent OpenAFS release team meeting. &nbsp;My goal is to represent t=
hese thoughts accurately and objectively, but of course I will err or f=
orget some things, so I'm counting on others who were present to add to=
 and/or correct what I say here.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Participants included:<br>
&gt; Stephan Weisand DESY<br>
&gt; Ben Kaduk		 Akamai<br>
&gt; Daria Brashear		 YFS<br>
&gt; Jeff Altman		 YFS<br>
&gt; Mike Meffie		 SNA<br>
&gt; Mark Vitale		 SNA<br>
&gt; Jeff Hutzleman		 CMU <br>
&gt; (Participants, please forgive me if I've omitted anyone...)<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Recently the OpenAFS community went through our well-defined proce=
ss for nominating and electing a new co-chair for the OpenAFS standardi=
zation committee, Ben Kaduk.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Unfortunately, there are several additional OpenAFS roles that nee=
d to be filled, but the process to fill them was handled by the now-dis=
banded Elders. &nbsp;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; First of all, as the Foundation is already quite aware, the need f=
or additional gatekeepers has been growing more apparent as Russ Allber=
y, Ken Dryer, and most recently Daria Brashear have all stepped down. &=
nbsp; Jeff Altman is the last remaining gatekeeper. &nbsp;Additional ma=
intainers are Stephan Weisand ( 1.6.x release manager) and Ben Kaduk (1=
.8.x release manager and de facto &quot;gatekeeper&quot;). &nbsp;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Some in the community have expressed the desire to rename the role=
 &quot;gatekeeper&quot; in an attempt to shed some the negative connota=
tions associated with that word. &nbsp;But whatever the role is called,=
 we need additional people who are able to review, approve, and merge n=
ew work into OpenAFS.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Another role is OpenAFS security officer. &nbsp;Simon Wilkinson re=
cently stepped down as security officer, and the position is currently =
empty. &nbsp;In my view (I speak only for myself here, not for the othe=
r participants), filling this position is even more critical than the n=
eed for more maintainers. &nbsp; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; So in both cases ( &quot;gatekeepers&quot; and security officer ),=
 we urgently need the Foundation to:<br>
&gt; a) Establish a process for selecting these roles, including requir=
ements, responsibilities, and any remuneration the Board is willing to =
provide.<br>
&gt; b) Actually impement the process to select people to fill these ro=
les as soon as possible.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I'll repeat my starting caveat: &nbsp;although I'm trying to repre=
sent the collective desires of the stakeholders at that recent release =
team meeting, please take this as merely a starting point in the conver=
sation. &nbsp;We are asking the Foundation Leadership to take note of t=
hese urgent requests and accept the responsibility to work with the com=
munity to address them quickly.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks for all your good work so far, and thanks in advance for yo=
ur efforts on our behalf.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Sincerely,<br>
&gt; Mark Vitale<br>
&gt; OpenAFS release team<br>
&gt; &nbsp;_______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Foundation-discuss mailing list<br>
&gt; Foundation-discuss@openafs.org<br>
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