Well... after a lot of back and forth with the afs guys, its done!!! I got a special version of the red hat 8.0 kernel built along with open afs 1.2.7. I'll put my work on my ftp site soon so that others can use this work around for now. (will follow another post to this e-mail list when the rpms are available for upload.) Cheers to openafs and open source! Steve.