[OpenAFS] how can you tell when files in AFS are no longer accessed.

Neulinger, Nathan nneul@umr.edu
Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:07:32 -0500


Well, do you have them on separate volumes?

If so, you could at least examine volume access counts over a few weeks
to see if they are being used.

Won't help you in the case of idle machines though.=20

You might consider nmap scanning the list and use the OS Type analysis
function. From there, you could probably get a useful list of what
machines are what.

-- Nathan

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Nathan Neulinger                       EMail:  nneul@umr.edu
University of Missouri - Rolla         Phone: (573) 341-4841
Computing Services                       Fax: (573) 341-4216


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas E. Engert [mailto:deengert@anl.gov]=20
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:05 AM
> To: Neulinger, Nathan
> Cc: Barry Miller; openafs-info@openafs.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] how can you tell when files in AFS are=20
> no longer accessed.
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> "Neulinger, Nathan" wrote:
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> > Removing those won't prevent those systems from using AFS, they just
> > won't be able to run the commands in /usr/afsws/.=20
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> > We've taken the approach of installing /usr/afsws/ locally on all
> > systems to avoid having to be concerned about it.
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> True, but to get from here to there it would make it easier if we=20
> could identify the machines that need to be updated.  It looks like a=20
> manual process: take the list of clients from the server, and get the
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> > The tracing/alert idea sounds like something that would be=20
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> > on the file server. Not sure how much of an impact that=20
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> > might have though.
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> > -- Nathan
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> > Nathan Neulinger                       EMail:  nneul@umr.edu
> > University of Missouri - Rolla         Phone: (573) 341-4841
> > Computing Services                       Fax: (573) 341-4216
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Barry Miller [mailto:btmiller@anl.gov]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:08 PM
> > > To: openafs-info@openafs.org
> > > Subject: [OpenAFS] how can you tell when files in AFS are no
> > > longer accessed.
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> > > We have a bunch of old Transarc AFS architectures installed.
> > > For example
> > > alpha_osf32, rs_aix32, sgi_405, sun4_411 among many others.
> > > Is there any
> > > way to tell if any clients running these ancient AFS cache
> > > mangers still
> > > access our OpenAFS servers? Similarly, is there any way to
> > > tell when an
> > > AFS-installed application is still used?
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> > > VMS used to let you define an 'alert' ACl to tell you=20
> when files and
> > > directories were accessed. Are there any plans to implement
> > > alert ACLs
> > > in future OpenAFS release?
> > >
> > > Barry Miller
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