[OpenAFS] AFS server and VMWare ESX

Brian Huntley bhuntley@clarkson.edu
Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:37:12 -0500


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Thanks for your comments, Nathan!

We have several other projects that are on the way and each will require 
its own hardware.  Our hope was to keep our physical server count (and 
associated costs) down by getting fewer, larger systems and running VM's 
on them.  Thus, 3 large systems will actually support 3 or 4 3-tiered 
(web, application, database) applications, plus at least 3 AFS servers.

Thanks again!
-Brian
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Brian T. Huntley, Systems Administrator
Office of Information Technology
Clarkson University
bhuntley@clarkson.edu 
"UNIX *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are."






"Neulinger, Nathan" <nneul@umr.edu> 
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03/26/2003 03:29 PM

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RE: [OpenAFS] AFS server and VMWare ESX






Any particular reason for doing that? OpenAFS server should run just
fine in that environment, but it seems like you'll just be creating a
lot more headache for yourself than anything.

What do you propose to gain by running the servers on virtual machines
instead of real hardware?

-- Nathan

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Nathan Neulinger                       EMail:  nneul@umr.edu
University of Missouri - Rolla         Phone: (573) 341-4841
Computing Services                       Fax: (573) 341-4216

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From: Brian Huntley [mailto:bhuntley@clarkson.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:03 PM
To: openafs-info@openafs.org
Subject: [OpenAFS] AFS server and VMWare ESX



Good day everyone... 

We are preparing a project plan to migrate our current Transarc AFS cell
living on Sun and IBM UNIX systems to a Linux-based OpenAFS environment.


We are contemplating creating the AFS servers (3-6 of them) as vm's on 2
or 3 physical platforms  using VMWare's ESX server.  Has anyone ever
tried to run an AFS server on a VM?  We are wondering specifically how
well AFS will cope with the virtual disk space it will have available,
vs. being able to access the hardware directly, as it would normally
expect.  Any thoughts or experiences would be greatly appreciated! 
TIA! 

Best regards, 
Brian 
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Brian T. Huntley, Systems Administrator
Office of Information Technology
Clarkson University
bhuntley@clarkson.edu
"UNIX *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends
are."
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks for your comments, Nathan!</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We have several other projects that
are on the way and each will require its own hardware. &nbsp;Our hope was
to keep our physical server count (and associated costs) down by getting
fewer, larger systems and running VM's on them. &nbsp;Thus, 3 large systems
will actually support 3 or 4 3-tiered (web, application, database) applications,
plus at least 3 AFS servers.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks again!</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-Brian</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">--<br>
Brian T. Huntley, Systems Administrator<br>
Office of Information Technology<br>
Clarkson University<br>
bhuntley@clarkson.edu <br>
&quot;UNIX *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends
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<br><font size=2><tt>Any particular reason for doing that? OpenAFS server
should run just<br>
fine in that environment, but it seems like you'll just be creating a<br>
lot more headache for yourself than anything.<br>
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What do you propose to gain by running the servers on virtual machines<br>
instead of real hardware?<br>
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-- Nathan<br>
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Nathan Neulinger &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; EMail: &nbsp;nneul@umr.edu<br>
University of Missouri - Rolla &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Phone: (573)
341-4841<br>
Computing Services &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fax: (573) 341-4216<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Brian Huntley [mailto:bhuntley@clarkson.edu] <br>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:03 PM<br>
To: openafs-info@openafs.org<br>
Subject: [OpenAFS] AFS server and VMWare ESX<br>
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Good day everyone... <br>
<br>
We are preparing a project plan to migrate our current Transarc AFS cell<br>
living on Sun and IBM UNIX systems to a Linux-based OpenAFS environment.<br>
<br>
<br>
We are contemplating creating the AFS servers (3-6 of them) as vm's on
2<br>
or 3 physical platforms &nbsp;using VMWare's ESX server. &nbsp;Has anyone
ever<br>
tried to run an AFS server on a VM? &nbsp;We are wondering specifically
how<br>
well AFS will cope with the virtual disk space it will have available,<br>
vs. being able to access the hardware directly, as it would normally<br>
expect. &nbsp;Any thoughts or experiences would be greatly appreciated!
<br>
TIA! <br>
<br>
Best regards, <br>
Brian <br>
--<br>
Brian T. Huntley, Systems Administrator<br>
Office of Information Technology<br>
Clarkson University<br>
bhuntley@clarkson.edu<br>
&quot;UNIX *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends<br>
are.&quot;<br>
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