[OpenAFS] Read-write cell root not working on Windows XP

[Jeffrey Altman]

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Rodney M Dyer wrote:

> At 02:50 PM 5/28/2004, Jeffrey Altman wrote:
>
>> You have no need to further the discussion of issues for which there 
>> is consensus.
>> All that happens when you complain about things which are known not 
>> to work
>> or which do work as I intend but for which there is no good 
>> documentation is
>> force me to have to respond to the e-mail.
>
>
> And who started this thread?  Not me.  You "are" already having to 
> respond to email.  In fact, a number of emails have been sent to this 
> list asking about these issues.

I did not say that you did.  A reply to the original sender explaining 
how to make things work
would be useful.  A letter describing that things are broken is less so.

>> Freelance mode and Encryption work for most users.  They do not work 
>> for you.
>> This is a known problem and they are being addressed.  I can only do 
>> what I can
>> do with the time available to me.
>
>
> I guess I'm a little rough around the edges because this sort of thing 
> doesn't seem to happen in the Unix/Linux client.  Is the 'nix client 
> encryption "on" by default?  How about freelance (dyn-root)?  Yes, 
> you've explained about going into the registry by hand and tweaking 
> the NetbiosName setting.  I understand that perfectly.  But are you 
> going to explain that to every new user who asks about this problem?

You are right.  These things do not happen in the Unix client.  The Unix 
client has seen much love over the last three years.  The Windows client 
has not.  The Unix client has Rx protocol locking which works; the 
Windows code apparently does not.  The Unix folks when not connected to 
the network tend to be more clueful than Windows users when the AFS 
Client Service stops; or is unable to access the root.afs volume of the 
default cell.  Windows users need things to work silently and 
automagically.  This is what I am attempting to acheive.

As for writing letters to explain it to each user?  Yes, I will.  
Because it is easily then writing the documentation which is going to 
change by the time 1.4 is ready. 

> I don't think I (as an AFS user) was included in the "consensus".  It 
> feels like what Microsoft does...choose first, then deal with user 
> questions later.  Stability means not only stable in operation, but 
> stable in default settings and expectations of use.  In this manner 
> the new client hasn't been stable.

Consensus does not mean unanimous agreement.  It means that the majority 
of have agreed as judged by the people responsible for doing the 
judging.  The people responsible for judging are the gatekeepers and elders.

> I'm on my soapbox now...I will quietly leave the room.  Thanks for 
> listening.
>
> Rodney (arrogant fool)



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