[OpenAFS] Evaluating OpenAFS: Questions

Sven Oehme oehmes@de.ibm.com
Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:43:09 +0100


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> Kris Van Hees wrote:
> > Actually, it is perfectly possible to have Samba get AFS tokens the 
normal
> > way by using PAM, and letting Samba authenticate the user through pam. 
 The
> > Samba instance that serves that particular connection from a Windows 
client
> > will then have an AFS token for the user if it was able to 
authenticate the
> > user.  This is similar to how a user can get AFS tokens by loggingin 
on the
> > Unix system directly.
> 
> In which case you are sending passwords across the network.  In my 
> opinion this is worse.  There was once a time when the Windows OpenAFS
> client was not being developed or supported where I could have justified
> the notion that a Samba gateway should be used simply because the client
> was too unstable to use.  This is no longer true.
> 
> Jeffrey Altman

we don't send password of the network !
we authenticate the user with windows mechanism and create a token for the 
user in the samba session.
so you can use Kerberos authentication between ADS <-> our Samba afs 
gateway.

i think you are doing good work with your windows client, don't 
misunderstand me. 
it's more a preference by me, to not try to manage software on a 
workstation, if you can do it central on the server. 

Sven

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<br><font size=2><tt><br>
&gt; Kris Van Hees wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Actually, it is perfectly possible to have Samba get AFS tokens
the normal<br>
&gt; &gt; way by using PAM, and letting Samba authenticate the user through
pam. &nbsp;The<br>
&gt; &gt; Samba instance that serves that particular connection from a
Windows client<br>
&gt; &gt; will then have an AFS token for the user if it was able to authenticate
the<br>
&gt; &gt; user. &nbsp;This is similar to how a user can get AFS tokens
by loggingin on the<br>
&gt; &gt; Unix system directly.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; In which case you are sending passwords across the network. &nbsp;In
my <br>
&gt; opinion this is worse. &nbsp;There was once a time when the Windows
OpenAFS<br>
&gt; client was not being developed or supported where I could have justified<br>
&gt; the notion that a Samba gateway should be used simply because the
client<br>
&gt; was too unstable to use. &nbsp;This is no longer true.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jeffrey Altman<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>we don't send password of the network !</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>we authenticate the user with windows mechanism and
create a token for the user in the samba session.</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>so you can use Kerberos authentication between ADS
&lt;-&gt; our Samba afs gateway.</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>i think you are doing good work with your windows
client, don't misunderstand me. </tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>it's more a preference by me, to not try to manage
software on a workstation, if you can do it central on the server. </tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Sven</font>
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Phone (+49)-6131-84-3151<br>
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