[OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:08:35 -0400
On Apr 20, 2008, at 14:37 , Russ Allbery wrote:
> Jim Meyering <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
>> Knowing that, I expect to revert that patch -- unless someone
>> can come up with a very good argument for the new behavior.
>> Out of curiosity, how have you used it?
> Usually to tell whether two shells are in different PAGs, which is
> when hunting down problems with AFS PAM modules and the like. Also to
> tell whether a process is in a PAG at all, although with current Linux
> kernels the keyring is the canonical place where that's stored.
Putting on my sysadmin hat, I am somewhat baffled by this
discussion. Completely hiding unknown groups? I would print
numerically and return a nonzero exit status (the latter possibly
overrideable for OpenAFS use where they are expected); hiding them
completely isn't just a way to annoy OpenAFS users, it also hides a
clue to a system configuration problem (namely, missing groups in the
If someone actually needs the hiding behavior, make it an option
(possibly invokable via an environment variable).
brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] email@example.com
system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] firstname.lastname@example.org
electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH