[OpenAFS] Re: busy .backup volumes

Kristen J. Webb kwebb@teradactyl.com
Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:11:30 -0600

Hi Andrew,
The filer was restarted early this a.m.  We've seen
this come up semi-frequently in the past 6 months,
so I expect to see it again.

As for the timestamp from vos status fileserver,
after I ran entrans, it increased continuously.
I cannot say if it was unchanging before I ran
entrans.  I'll try and gather this on the next

I'll also see what I can do about generating
any traces to determine if this is a some
sort of Rx timeout, RPC hang, an overcount
error, or something else.

Thanks for all the help everyone!

On 4/20/13 5:01 PM, Andrew Deason wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:51:12 -0600
> "Kristen J. Webb" <kwebb@teradactyl.com> wrote:
>> I can say for sure that server that issued the vos dump has been
>> rebooted since the transaction started.  The other thing I am
>> observing is that repeated vos status on the fileserver shows the
>> lastActiveTime as current (increasing).
> It would be set to the current time when you ran the 'vos endtrans'
> command. I assume you just saw it increase once, and not increasing
> constantly.
> So again, everything you've said suggests there is an RPC holding a
> reference to that transaction, which is why it's not going away. So
> either:
>   - The Rx call is still alive. Even if the client is gone, for some
>     reason the Rx call is not dying (i.e. some bug in Rx; a timer not
>     going off or something).
>   - The Rx call died, but the RPC is still running. Maybe the volser RPC
>     is hanging on some lock or some other thing.
>   - There is no RPC still running, but the transaction still says someone
>     is using it. We have a bug with a reference overcount on that
>     transaction.
> The only way to know which it is is to look at a stack trace or core of
> the volserver process, or maybe 'rxdebug' would show a stuck call if the
> problem is a stuck Rx call.
> There have been some bugs in the past with the volserver not accessing
> transactions from multiple threads correctly (not locking things right).
> It could be something like that (though I don't think I've seen that
> _specific_ manifestation), or it could be something else entirely.

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