[OpenAFS] DB quorum problems on 1.4/1.6 mixed cell

Arne Wiebalck Arne.Wiebalck@cern.ch
Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:50:35 +0000


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Hi,

We've recently added some 1.6.6 servers into our cell which is mainly on =
1.4.15 (i.e. most  of the file servers
and the DB servers). We now encounter quorum problems with our VLDB =
servers.

The primary symptom is that releases fail with "u: no quorum elected".

VLLog on the sync site shows at that moment:
-->
Tue Feb 11 09:51:47 2014 ubik:server 137.138.246.51 is back up: will be =
contacted through 137.138.246.51
Tue Feb 11 09:51:47 2014 ubik:server 137.138.246.50 is back up: will be =
contacted through 137.138.246.50
<--
where  137.138.246.50 and  137.138.246.51 are the non-sync sites.

We can relatively easy trigger this problem by moving volumes between =
1.4 and 1.6 based servers (1.4/1.4
and 1.6/1.6 transfers seems OK): the move gets stuck and udebug shows=20

-->
Host's addresses are: 137.138.128.148
Host's 137.138.128.148 time is Tue Feb 11 09:38:02 2014
Local time is Tue Feb 11 09:38:02 2014 (time differential 0 secs)
Last yes vote for 137.138.128.148 was 5 secs ago (sync site);
Last vote started 5 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:37:57 2014)
Local db version is 1392106724.154
I am sync site until 54 secs from now (at Tue Feb 11 09:38:56 2014) (3 =
servers)
Recovery state f
I am currently managing write trans 1392106724.-1892301558
Sync site's db version is 1392106724.154
0 locked pages, 0 of them for write
There are write locks held
Last time a new db version was labelled was:
         1158 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:18:44 2014)

Server (137.138.246.51): (db 1392106724.153)
    last vote rcvd 20 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:37:42 2014),
    last beacon sent 20 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:37:42 2014), last =
vote was yes
    dbcurrent=3D0, up=3D0 beaconSince=3D0

Server (137.138.246.50): (db 1392106724.154)
    last vote rcvd 6 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:37:56 2014),
    last beacon sent 5 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:37:57 2014), last vote =
was yes
    dbcurrent=3D1, up=3D1 beaconSince=3D1
<--

Note that the sync site has gone to Recovery state f and that the time =
at which the last vote was received
on the other two servers has quite a time gap which gets larger with =
time. Is the negative trans ID ok?

At some point the sync site loses its sync site state:

-->
Host's addresses are: 137.138.128.148
Host's 137.138.128.148 time is Tue Feb 11 09:41:01 2014
Local time is Tue Feb 11 09:41:02 2014 (time differential 1 secs)
Last yes vote for 137.138.128.148 was 4 secs ago (sync site);
Last vote started 4 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:40:58 2014)
Local db version is 1392106724.206
I am not sync site
Lowest host 137.138.128.148 was set 4 secs ago
Sync host 137.138.128.148 was set 4 secs ago
I am currently managing write trans 1392106724.-1892283756
Sync site's db version is 1392106724.206
0 locked pages, 0 of them for write
There are write locks held
Last time a new db version was labelled was:
         1337 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:18:45 2014)
<--

so there is no sync site any longer and the vos command gets a no quorum =
error.

As this also happens when we do not move volumes around (like at 3am), =
but other operations such
as the backup touch the volumes, I would suspect that VLDB operations in =
general can trigger this.

Is this a known issue?=20

I had understood that it should be OK to run 1.4 and 1.6 file servers in =
parallel and that the DB servers
could be updated after the file servers, but maybe that is not correct?

Thanks!
 Arne


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CERN IT


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">Hi,<div><br></div><div>We've recently added some 1.6.6 servers into =
our cell which is mainly on 1.4.15 (i.e. most &nbsp;of the file =
servers</div><div>and the DB servers). We now encounter quorum problems =
with our VLDB servers.</div><div><br></div><div>The primary symptom is =
that releases fail with "u: no quorum =
elected".</div><div><br></div><div>VLLog on the sync site shows at that =
moment:</div><div>--&gt;</div><div><div>Tue Feb 11 09:51:47 2014 =
ubik:server 137.138.246.51 is back up: will be contacted through =
137.138.246.51</div><div>Tue Feb 11 09:51:47 2014 ubik:server =
137.138.246.50 is back up: will be contacted through =
137.138.246.50</div></div><div>&lt;--</div><div>where&nbsp;&nbsp;137.138.2=
46.50 and&nbsp;&nbsp;137.138.246.51 are the non-sync =
sites.</div><div><br></div><div>We can relatively easy trigger this =
problem by moving volumes between 1.4 and 1.6 based servers =
(1.4/1.4</div><div>and 1.6/1.6 transfers seems OK): the move gets stuck =
and udebug =
shows&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>--&gt;</div><div><div>Host's =
addresses are: 137.138.128.148</div><div>Host's 137.138.128.148 time is =
Tue Feb 11 09:38:02 2014</div><div>Local time is Tue Feb 11 09:38:02 =
2014 (time differential 0 secs)</div><div>Last yes vote for =
137.138.128.148 was 5 secs ago (sync site);</div><div>Last vote started =
5 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:37:57 2014)</div><div>Local db version is =
1392106724.154</div><div>I am sync site until 54 secs from now (at Tue =
Feb 11 09:38:56 2014) (3 servers)</div><div>Recovery state f</div><div>I =
am currently managing write trans 1392106724.-1892301558</div><div>Sync =
site's db version is 1392106724.154</div><div>0 locked pages, 0 of them =
for write</div><div>There are write locks held</div><div>Last time a new =
db version was labelled was:</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;1158 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:18:44 =
2014)</div><div><br></div><div>Server (137.138.246.51): (db =
1392106724.153)</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; last vote rcvd 20 secs ago (at =
Tue Feb 11 09:37:42 2014),</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; last beacon sent 20 =
secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:37:42 2014), last vote was =
yes</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; dbcurrent=3D0, up=3D0 =
beaconSince=3D0</div><div><br></div><div>Server (137.138.246.50): (db =
1392106724.154)</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; last vote rcvd 6 secs ago (at =
Tue Feb 11 09:37:56 2014),</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; last beacon sent 5 =
secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:37:57 2014), last vote was =
yes</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; dbcurrent=3D1, up=3D1 =
beaconSince=3D1</div></div><div>&lt;--</div><div><br></div><div>Note =
that the sync site has gone to Recovery state f and that the time at =
which the last vote was received</div><div>on the other two servers has =
quite a time gap which gets larger with time. Is the negative trans ID =
ok?</div><div><br></div><div>At some point the sync site loses its sync =
site state:</div><div><br></div><div>--&gt;</div><div><div>Host's =
addresses are: 137.138.128.148</div><div>Host's 137.138.128.148 time is =
Tue Feb 11 09:41:01 2014</div><div>Local time is Tue Feb 11 09:41:02 =
2014 (time differential 1 secs)</div><div>Last yes vote for =
137.138.128.148 was 4 secs ago (sync site);</div><div>Last vote started =
4 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:40:58 2014)</div><div>Local db version is =
1392106724.206</div><div>I am not sync site</div><div>Lowest host =
137.138.128.148 was set 4 secs ago</div><div>Sync host 137.138.128.148 =
was set 4 secs ago</div><div>I am currently managing write trans =
1392106724.-1892283756</div><div>Sync site's db version is =
1392106724.206</div><div>0 locked pages, 0 of them for =
write</div><div>There are write locks held</div><div>Last time a new db =
version was labelled was:</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;1337 secs ago (at Tue Feb 11 09:18:45 =
2014)</div></div><div>&lt;--</div><div><br></div><div>so there is no =
sync site any longer and the vos command gets a no quorum =
error.</div><div><br></div><div>As this also happens&nbsp;when we do not =
move volumes around (like at 3am), but other operations =
such</div><div>as the backup touch&nbsp;the volumes, I would suspect =
that VLDB operations in general can trigger =
this.</div><div><br></div><div>Is this a known =
issue?&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I had understood that it should be =
OK to run 1.4 and 1.6 file servers in parallel and that the DB =
servers</div><div>could be updated after the file servers, but maybe =
that is not =
correct?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>&nbsp;Arne</div><div><=
br></div><div><br><div>
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