[OpenAFS] Re: Red Hat RPM packaging

Jeffrey Altman jaltman@your-file-system.com
Mon, 15 Sep 2014 23:12:12 -0400


This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format.

--------------ms030702040205000909070001
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 9/15/2014 10:57 PM, Jon Stanley wrote:
> Actually commercial filesystems like VxFS adhere to the whitelist (I
> think, it's been forever since I touched VxFS on Linux - or Solaris
> for that matter :D), so it's definitely possible to do.

OpenAFS has support for functionality the VxFS does not.  In particular,
process authentication groups.  Without pag support much of that list
goes away.   The AFS mount point processing and other features might
also require functionality outside the usual use cases.

> I'm at home
> right now, so I didn't have a built AFS close by to look at, but I
> built it on a quick VM and the situation isn't quite as bad as you
> think:

The list varies by RHEL release.

[details of symbols removed]

> Just getting rid of the usage of these symbols from OpenAFS would go a
> long ways to ensure compatibility within and between RHEL releases.
> The script can be found at
> http://people.redhat.com/jcm/el6/dup/docs/scripts/rhel6_kabi_check.py

Thanks for the pointer.

>> David Howell's has an in-kernel AFS kernel module but its behavior is
>> sufficiently different from the OpenAFS kernel module as to be
>> disruptive for end users.  There were efforts to modify David's kmod t=
o
>> share the OpenAFS userland tools but those ran into insurmountable
>> hurdles.  I believe David is now in the process of writing his own
>> userland tool chain.
>=20
> Cool, but would it be easy for an OpenAFS user to migrate to these,
> and is the in-kernel AFS nearly as complete as OpenAFS? My immediate
> guess would be no on both counts, but I'd love to hear otherwise :)

Of course the answer is "no" on both counts.  Hence the reason the
switch would be disruptive.

Jeffrey Altman




--------------ms030702040205000909070001
Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s"
Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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=
--------------ms030702040205000909070001--