[OpenAFS-win32-devel] New hidden file options on Windows....

Jeffrey Altman jaltman@columbia.edu
Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:39:31 -0500


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Rodney M Dyer wrote:

> At 03:48 AM 3/24/2004, Derrick J Brashear wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Rodney M Dyer wrote:
>> >
>> > The new version of the AFS Windows client 1.3.60 allows hiding 
>> files that
>> > begin with a "." (dot) much like in UNIX-land.  This is a nice 
>> feature, but
>> > it would be even nicer if the feature was emulated whenever the Win32
>> > hidden file attribute was changed.  Can we see this as a future 
>> feature?
>>
>> You want to secretly rename my files from under me. Ew.
>
>
> Gee, you want to "secretly" hide my "dotted" Windows files from me 
> just because you want Windows to "operate" like UNIX?  Ew.
>
> Stop trying to make Windows work like UNIX.  If you do, you might as 
> well adjust with the hidden attribute auto-magically.  Putting dots in 
> front of files is not the "correct" way to hide files under Windows.  
> I'm sorry UNIX has no "hidden" attribute...so they had to come up with 
> a "kludge".
>
The reason this option is set by a registry option is so that you can 
turn it off if the
user does not like it.  I personally do like it because AFS directory 
trees are Unix; just like
they are on NFS.  I would be very interested in seeing what all the many 
NFS clients for
Windows do in this case.

However, I too believe that attempting to rename (or create/delete) 
files with dots will be a
nightmare because the end results will be unpredictable depending on the 
privileges the user
has in the directory and the files which happen to exist or not exist in 
the directory.

Jeffrey Altman




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<font face="Bitstream Cyberbit">Rodney M Dyer wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid6.0.0.22.0.20040330232436.01d95848@email.uncc.edu"
 type="cite"><font face="Bitstream Cyberbit">At 03:48 AM 3/24/2004,
Derrick J Brashear wrote:
  <br>
  </font>
  <blockquote type="cite"><font face="Bitstream Cyberbit">On Wed, 24
Mar 2004, Rodney M Dyer wrote:
    <br>
&gt;
    <br>
&gt; The new version of the AFS Windows client 1.3.60 allows hiding
files that
    <br>
&gt; begin with a "." (dot) much like in UNIX-land.&nbsp; This is a nice
feature, but
    <br>
&gt; it would be even nicer if the feature was emulated whenever the
Win32
    <br>
&gt; hidden file attribute was changed.&nbsp; Can we see this as a future
feature?
    <br>
    <br>
You want to secretly rename my files from under me. Ew.
    <br>
    </font></blockquote>
  <font face="Bitstream Cyberbit"><br>
Gee, you want to "secretly" hide my "dotted" Windows files from me just
because you want Windows to "operate" like UNIX?&nbsp; Ew.
  <br>
  <br>
Stop trying to make Windows work like UNIX.&nbsp; If you do, you might as
well adjust with the hidden attribute auto-magically.&nbsp; Putting dots in
front of files is not the "correct" way to hide files under Windows.&nbsp;
I'm sorry UNIX has no "hidden" attribute...so they had to come up with
a "kludge".
  <br>
  </font><font face="Bitstream Cyberbit"><br>
  </font></blockquote>
The reason this option is set by a registry option is so that you can
turn it off if the<br>
user does not like it.&nbsp; I personally do like it because AFS directory
trees are Unix; just like<br>
they are on NFS.&nbsp; I would be very interested in seeing what all the
many NFS clients for <br>
Windows do in this case.<br>
<br>
However, I too believe that attempting to rename (or create/delete)
files with dots will be a <br>
nightmare because the end results will be unpredictable depending on
the privileges the user <br>
has in the directory and the files which happen to exist or not exist
in the directory.<br>
<br>
Jeffrey Altman<br>
<br>
<br>
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