[OpenAFS] Re: the future

Troy Benjegerdes hozer@hozed.org
Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:29:42 -0500

I'd say the summary is something like this:

1) YFS (your-file-system) is forking (or re-implementing) OpenAFS to be
able to have a commercially viable business & product that will have the
financial return-on-investment needed to justify the cost of implementing
a long list of things, starting with rxgk.

2) No other credible plans have been proposed that can provide a working 
rxgk implementation, and the only implementation that at one point actually
worked was rxk5, but it had 'flag day' issues for upgrades.

Some of us don't really care about the flag day issue, but then that's 
effectively forking OpenAFS into incompatible versions. It's also not clear
why YFS should support the OpenAFS community if the OpenAFS community is not
providing anything to YFS in return.

Is this a halfway accurate short summary, or I am completely missing something?

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 09:25:54PM -0400, Jeffrey Altman wrote:
> Steve:
> I have written many paragraphs over the last couple of months. They are
> drowned out by the noise.
> There is no burnout.  Russ and I both resigned from the Elders for
> different reasons.  You can read our resignation letters in the
> openafs-announce 2012 archives
>   http://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-announce/2012/date.html
> I recommend that you read
>   http://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-info/2012-August/038511.html
> if you have not already.
> On 9/30/2012 9:03 PM, Devine, Steven (sd) wrote:
> > Please know that this post is offered in the hopes of helping, or at least giving a viewpoint of one that operates on the edge of the OpenAFS.
> > 
> > I am generally unaware of the current dilemma that seems to be facing OpenAFS.  I read this list in digest mode and recent changes in my responsibilities have made that pretty sporadic. This doesn't mean that AFS is not important to MSU or to me.   
> > So here is my question:
> > Can some one give the list a couple of paragraphs about what the heck is going on? I suspect there are a lot of us that would like to help but I truly can't tell if there is a serious issue at hand or if this is just the result of the elders and gatekeepers facing burnout. Respectfully please, we need direction if help is truly required from the members of this list.
> > /sd
> > 
> > Steve Devine
> > Collaborative Systems & Support
> > Information Technology Services
> > Michigan State University
> > 
> > 
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