[AFS3-std] A call for consensus on draft-deason-afs3-type-time-02

[Douglas E. Engert]

On 7/21/2011 2:50 AM, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote:
> 21.07.2011 8:20, Simon Wilkinson wrote
>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 06:00, Mykyta Yevstifeyev<evnikita2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Reading this draft, I don't actually understand why you chose to publish it as RFC.
>> We're using the Independent Submissions stream for afs3 documents. See RFC4846 for details of this stream, and it's purpose.
> I've read RFC 4846 and have noticed you're using Independent Submissions stream. Probably, the draft should be clearer regarding relationships with currently deployed Internet protocols/technologies,
> since your document "at the first glance" seems to be a bit irrelevant for the RFC series. The counter conclusion may only be made by people who are involved in the AFS development and other
> contiguous technologies (whom I don't belong to), which makes the document not as readable as desired. A good background placed in the Introduction is a good way to resolve the issue.
>
> Mykyta

The attempt to implement standards for the AFS protocols has been a mult-year endeavor,
with discussions with the IETF and IESG and independent submission has been the recommendation.
But as people come and go the same discussions are repeated, so progress has been slow.

Following is a note sent to the editor on March 18, that may give you some better insight
as to what we are trying to do. You can also find responses from the editor in the
afs3-standariization@openafs.org archives. May 2011.

We now have one document up for review by the RFC editor as an independent submission.
We expect that there will be some boiler plate text added to this document by the editor,
and we will add it to the others.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [AFS3-std] AFS3 Standardization  and Independent Submissions
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:38:12 -0500
From: Douglas E. Engert <deengert@anl.gov>
To: rfc-ise@rfc-editor.org, afs3-standardization@openafs.org
CC: Hartmut Reuter <reuter@rzg.mpg.de>

As you may have seen, there has been a group formed of developers, to standardize
the AFS protocols. As one of the co-chairs, I am writing to you to get your
options on our process and how these drafts can be moved forward as Independent
Submissions.

A history of AFS can be found at: http://openafs.org

A number of independent interoperable implementations of AFS have been developed
over the years and for a number of reasons, using the IETF Independent Submissions
track has been deemed to be the way to go.

The foundations of the process and the group can be found in:
  http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wilkinson-afs3-standardisation-01.txt

Many of the members of the group are current or former IETF WG chairs and
are familiar with the general IETF submission process, but not with the
Independent Submissions. So I am contacting you, the IS editor, to get
you option on the process and if we are doing what would be expected.

All of the drafts have -afs3- in the name.

This first draft has been submitted as Informational and has passed a last
call on the mailing list:

  http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-brashear-afs3-pts-extended-names-09.txt

These have been submitted but and are being considered by the group:

  http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-deason-afs3-getsizev2-02.txt
  http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-deason-afs3-type-time-00.txt
  http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-keiser-afs3-xdr-union-00.txt
  http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-tkeiser-afs3-volser-tlv-04.txt
  http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wilkinson-afs3-bos-identities-00.txt

Our group is based on:
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wilkinson-afs3-standardisation-01.txt

So we would like to know if these look acceptable as Independent
Submissions and what we should be doing with the first one of these,
draft-brashear-afs3-pts-extended-names-09.

Thanks.



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