[OpenAFS-devel] Check for CellServDB and AFSDBRR correctness?
Ted McCabe
ted@MIT.EDU
Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:20:10 -0400
Before my point gets lost in the below reply, I was only trying to
provide examples in which the set of servers found by querying them
directly with Harald's tool shouldn't be considered authoritative
over the published set.
At 10:07 AM -0400 7/9/01, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote:
>On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Ted McCabe wrote:
>> If the dbservers could be set up to not point clients to the
>> sync-site, then one might also do it so that clients using the
>> published list would have readonly access to the dbs. That may be
>> desired for clients outside some tightly controlled environment.
>
>This is a bogus argument. Security through obscurity is worse than no
>security at all. If you don't want clients making changes, then don't
>give them the bits.
Agreed, that security through obscurity is bogus. But I didn't say
that the reason was due to security - it could be due to policy, for
example, that the sysadmin can't affect but must abide by. Or,
another example, perhaps there's a firewall that prevents outside
access to the machines that might be sync site.
This was a second example tho', so my point is still valid if you
want to believe that no site would desire to publish a strict,
non-sync, subset of their dbservers.
>> Since the dbservers do direct write requests to the sync-site, I
>> expect the client happily uses the pointer it gets. It might
>> explicitly check against the published list, I've not looked at the
>> code, but there's not much point to check since it has no reason to
>> not trust the forwarding info.
>
>The dbservers don't tell you who the sync site is. If you try a write
>request on not the sync site, you get UNOTSYNC, and it's up to you to find
>the sync site. The Ubik client library will do this for you, but it only
>makes a VOTE_GetSyncSite call if there are at least four dbservers;
>otherwise it uses simple iteration.
Ah, I forgot that VOTE_GetSyncSite was only used by the client if
there were less than 4 dbservers. In any case, that is what I was
referring to.
--Ted