[OpenAFS-devel] kauth broken - problem with IOMGR in lwp?

Jeffrey Altman jaltman@auristor.com
Wed, 13 Nov 2024 21:45:45 -0500


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> On Nov 13, 2024, at 8:02=E2=80=AFPM, Jeffrey Altman =
<jaltman@auristor.com> wrote:
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>> On Nov 13, 2024, at 7:19=E2=80=AFPM, Ben Huntsman <ben@huntsmans.net> =
wrote:
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>>    Any idea how to track it down?  This is made more difficult by the =
limited debugger output.
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> git bisect from a known working version to a known broken version.

Git bisect is going to be the best option because there was five years =
of significant development between when the 1.6 series was cut from =
master and when the 1.8 series was cut from master.  =20

I think the first question to answer is whether or not the failure case =
was present at the point where the openafs-stable-1_8_x branch forked =
from master. =20

  commit e739eaa650ee30dcce54d05908b062839eafbf73 (tag: =
BP-openafs-stable-1_8_x)

If it was working there, then bisect along the openafs-stable_1_8_x =
branch to find the commit where things break for the first time.
If it was not working there, then bisect the master branch from the =
point where the openafs-stable-1_6_x branch forked. =20

  commit c89bc695707f62e64f64b3abb15470b291f613a1 (tag: =
BP-openafs-stable-1_6_x)

LWP is hard to debug because it is a custom cooperative threading model =
which is not going to be understood by debuggers.

In OpenAFS 1.8.x the commonly used command line tools although built for =
both LWP and pthreads are going to be distributed as the pthreads =
version.  There is no pthreads build of klog.   It=E2=80=99s quite =
possible the breakage is to all LWP clients and not specific to kauth.  =
One thought that comes to mind is whether the difference is in how =
OpenAFS is being built.  For example, was the 1.6.13 build that =
succeeded 32-bit vs the 1.8 build being 64-bit?



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2024, at 8:02=E2=80=AFPM, Jeffrey Altman &lt;jaltman@auristor.com&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta =
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 Nov 13, 2024, at 7:19=E2=80=AFPM, Ben Huntsman =
&lt;ben@huntsmans.net&gt; wrote:</div><div><div class=3D"elementToProof" =
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Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp; &nbsp;Any idea how to track it =
down?&nbsp; This is made more difficult by the limited debugger =
output.</div><div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, =
Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;"><br></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>git bisect from a =
known working version to a known broken =
version.</div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>Git bisect is =
going to be the best option because there was five years of significant =
development between when the 1.6 series was cut from master and when the =
1.8 series was cut from master. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I =
think the first question to answer is whether or not the failure case =
was present at the point where the openafs-stable-1_8_x branch forked =
from master. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;commit =
e739eaa650ee30dcce54d05908b062839eafbf73 (tag: =
BP-openafs-stable-1_8_x)</div><div><br></div><div>If it was working =
there, then bisect along the openafs-stable_1_8_x branch to find the =
commit where things break for the first time.</div><div>If it was not =
working there, then bisect the master branch from the point where the =
openafs-stable-1_6_x branch forked. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; commit =
c89bc695707f62e64f64b3abb15470b291f613a1 (tag: =
BP-openafs-stable-1_6_x)</div><div><br></div><div>LWP is hard to debug =
because it is a custom cooperative threading model which is not going to =
be understood by debuggers.</div><div><br></div><div>In OpenAFS 1.8.x =
the commonly used command line tools although built for both LWP and =
pthreads are going to be distributed as the pthreads version. =
&nbsp;There is no pthreads build of klog. &nbsp; It=E2=80=99s quite =
possible the breakage is to all LWP clients and not specific to kauth. =
&nbsp;One thought that comes to mind is whether the difference is in how =
OpenAFS is being built. &nbsp;For example, was the 1.6.13 build that =
succeeded 32-bit vs the 1.8 build being =
64-bit?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>=

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