[OpenAFS] Viewing files through Gnome

Jack Britton jack.britton@britton-consulting.com
15 Jul 2002 19:14:28 -0500


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Thanks for the info on Nautilus.  I installed a different file manager
to manipulate my afs files with no problems.  It would be nice if
Nautilus did not have that problem though.  Thanks for the help.

Jack

On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 09:26, Jack Neely wrote:

    On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 07:50:20PM -0500, Jack Britton wrote:
    > I have afs up and running.  I can access /afs/cellname/home/username
    > after logging in with klog.  I have set my user up with all permissions
    > except for administer.  When I traverse the file structure all is well
    > until I get into my user's home directory on the afs server.  When I
    > select a file through Nautilus in Gnome the file disappears.  Do I have
    > something set up wrong???
    > 
    > Jack
    > 
    > 
    
    This problem actually has nothing to do with AFS.  Nautilus uses a
    utility called fam to monitor files for changes.  Fam is quite broken by
    design and with AFS just doesn't work because there's no way to run the
    daemon with the authentication of the user.  Stop fam by doing a 
    
            chkconfig sgi_fam off
    
    and see if that doesn't clear up the problems.  Also, it seems to work
    with the rights for anyuser set to 'l'.  
    
    As a side note, are you running Red Hat Linux with the default Gnome
    user environment?  Have you seen the problems with GConf?  That /IS/ an
    AFS problem.  GConf depends on proper file locking via fcntl() which
    simply doesn't work right.  Are these locking issues being worked on?
    They are quite a misfeature that is causing me, and others, lots of
    pain.
    
    Jack Neely
    
    
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    Jack Neely <slack@quackmaster.net>
    Linux Realm Kit Administration and Development 
    PAMS Computer Operations at NC State University
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Thanks for the info on Nautilus.&nbsp; I installed a different file manager to manipulate my afs files with no problems.&nbsp; It would be nice if Nautilus did not have that problem though.&nbsp; Thanks for the help.
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Jack
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On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 09:26, Jack Neely wrote:
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<PRE><FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 07:50:20PM -0500, Jack Britton wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; I have afs up and running.  I can access /afs/cellname/home/username</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; after logging in with klog.  I have set my user up with all permissions</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; except for administer.  When I traverse the file structure all is well</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; until I get into my user's home directory on the afs server.  When I</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; select a file through Nautilus in Gnome the file disappears.  Do I have</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; something set up wrong???</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; Jack</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>This problem actually has nothing to do with AFS.  Nautilus uses a</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>utility called fam to monitor files for changes.  Fam is quite broken by</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>design and with AFS just doesn't work because there's no way to run the</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>daemon with the authentication of the user.  Stop fam by doing a </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>        chkconfig sgi_fam off</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>and see if that doesn't clear up the problems.  Also, it seems to work</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>with the rights for anyuser set to 'l'.  </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>As a side note, are you running Red Hat Linux with the default Gnome</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>user environment?  Have you seen the problems with GConf?  That /IS/ an</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>AFS problem.  GConf depends on proper file locking via fcntl() which</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>simply doesn't work right.  Are these locking issues being worked on?</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>They are quite a misfeature that is causing me, and others, lots of</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>pain.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Jack Neely</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>-- </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Jack Neely &lt;slack@quackmaster.net&gt;</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Linux Realm Kit Administration and Development </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>PAMS Computer Operations at NC State University</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#1a39e0"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>GPG Fingerprint: 1917 5AC1 E828 9337 7AA4&nbsp; EA6B 213B 765F 3B6A 5B89</FONT></FONT></I>
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