I know this question has been beaten to death before, but what are the current alternatives for windows clients on a kaserver-less network? So far I see: 1) kdc slave running on the afs dbserver machine 2) udp port-forwarder on the afs dbserver machine Has any work been done towards MIT-krb integration on the windows port? -- Ryan Underwood, <nemesis at icequake.net>, icq=10317253