[OpenAFS] Re: mit kdc for windows auth

Mon, 10 May 2004 21:01:07 -0400

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The answer is you can't do what you want.  If you use a non-MS realm
for authentication (without a Domain) you cannot use LDAP for 
authorization.
Windows requires that the authorization data be stored in the Kerberos
ticket.  This is done for you via Active Directory.

Jeffrey Altman

David Bear wrote:

>In all the reading I've done, I haven't found a way to use kerb only
>to authenticat windows 2000/xp machines.  I would really appreciate
>pointers.. My goal is to use kerberos for authentication, then ldap
>for authorization to groups.. If I have to I woundn't mind using samba
>to handle authorization groups. But that would put me back to using
>the NT 4 domain model... 
>
>
>On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:04:00PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 May 2004, David Bear wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I noticed in a note sent to the openafs list that you mit kdc for
>>>windows auth.  Does this mean you do not use active directory? or do
>>>you have a trust to you kdc...
>>>
>>>I'm very interested in NON-microsoft means of controlling and managing
>>>windows boxes..
>>>
>>I do not use active directory.  I do not use a trust to the KDC.  I use
>>the MIT KDC directly.  I do not have all the functionality of AD though.
>>I must have a user account on each box for example.
>>
>>I am working my way up to roaming profiles, LDAP, and other fun.
>>
>>Please post your questions to the list.
>>
>>Later,
>>Jason C. Wells
>>
>

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The answer is you can't do what you
want.&nbsp; If you use a non-MS realm 
for authentication (without a Domain) you cannot use LDAP for
authorization. 
Windows requires that the authorization data be stored in the Kerberos 
ticket.&nbsp; This is done for you via Active Directory. 
 
Jeffrey Altman 
 
 
David Bear wrote: 

<blockquote cite="mid20040511005219.GV13131@asu.edu" type="cite">
 <pre wrap="">In all the reading I've done, I haven't found a way to use kerb only
to authenticat windows 2000/xp machines. I would really appreciate
pointers.. My goal is to use kerberos for authentication, then ldap
for authorization to groups.. If I have to I woundn't mind using samba
to handle authorization groups. But that would put me back to using
the NT 4 domain model...

On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:04:00PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote:
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    <pre wrap=""><font face="Bitstream Cyberbit">On Mon, 10 May 2004, David Bear wrote:

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      <pre wrap=""><font face="Bitstream Cyberbit">I noticed in a note sent to the openafs list that you mit kdc for
windows auth.  Does this mean you do not use active directory? or do
you have a trust to you kdc...

I'm very interested in NON-microsoft means of controlling and managing
windows boxes..
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    <pre wrap=""><font face="Bitstream Cyberbit">I do not use active directory.  I do not use a trust to the KDC.  I use
the MIT KDC directly.  I do not have all the functionality of AD though.
I must have a user account on each box for example.

I am working my way up to roaming profiles, LDAP, and other fun.

Please post your questions to the list.

Later,
Jason C. Wells
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