[OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.4.1 on XP SP2: Delay Write Failed

ted creedon tcreedon@easystreet.com
Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:19:09 -0700

The file is at ftp://creedon.dhs.org/pub/RaisingCopperRiverBridge.doc

Suit yourself.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Altman [mailto:jaltman@secure-endpoints.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:45 AM
To: tcreedon@easystreet.com
Cc: openafs-info@openafs.org
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.4.1 on XP SP2: Delay Write Failed


This is an open source project.  You are a user of the code.  I am not
aware that there is a bug in the code because you have provided no
evidence to that effect.  As far as I can tell the problem is user error.

Now if you believe there is a problem you can do one of the following

(1) file a reasonable bug report with the necessary details to either
demonstrate what the bug is or how to reproduce it.

(2) you can hire someone to support you and produce such a bug report
or description of how to reproduce it

(3) live with the problem and do nothing

(4) stop using the software

Wasting my time is not one of the options on the table.  At this point
I think that I am going to add you to a mail filter so that I won't be
tempted to respond to your posts in the future.  Its not that I don't
want to help you but it really isn't my job to do so.  You are not my
friend nor are you my client.  You are simply a random person on the
Internet who has decided to use a piece of software that I happen to
contribute code to.

Good luck in your future use of AFS.

Jeffrey Altman

ted creedon wrote:
> If you're not interested in correcting vague instructions (which should be
> in the obsolete documentation) and would rather Persian messenger the
> writer, then there is nothing to discuss.
> If you need a test case that breaks afs, it is available.
> I am not in a position to debug your code for you, or test it either.
> tedc
> -----Original Message-----
> From: openafs-info-admin@openafs.org
> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hutzelman
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:39 PM
> To: tcreedon@easystreet.com
> Cc: openafs-info@openafs.org; Jeffrey Hutzelman
> Subject: RE: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.4.1 on XP SP2: Delay Write Failed
> On Friday, August 11, 2006 04:16:30 PM -0700 ted tcreedon 
> <tcreedon@easystreet.com> wrote:
>> Is what I wrote correct or not?
>> I don't have time for comments that are not germaine.
> Ted, you are asking for help on a public mailing list.  If you don't feel 
> you have time for what people here have to say, then feel free not to read

> their comments, or not to ask for help here.
> In addition to pointing you at the debugging instructions that are
> in the OpenAFS for Windows distribution, Jeff has given you a fairly 
> complete and accurate summary of what steps are required to obtain the 
> debugging dumps that will enable him or others to track down your problem.

> He even provided som additional tips beyond the bare minimum needed to get

> the job done.  He has also indicated that he cannot or will not provide 
> more personalized support or "handholding" except to his paying clients.
> I suggest you respect that, and stop asking for that level of support from

> Jeff unless you are willing to pay for it (in which case, you should 
> contact him off-list).  Perhaps there is someone else here who has the
> and expertise to help you; if so, I'm sure they'll speak up.  In the 
> meantime, I'd suggest reading the documentation and Jeff's previous mail 
> messages, and attempting to gather the requested debugging dumps.
> Of course, you are welcome to submit a bug report without any debugging 
> output, but that makes your issue more difficult to track down and thus 
> less likely to receive much (or any) attention.  This is particularly true

> in this case, where the data you have provided so far gives no indication 
> of what the problem might be, or even if it is in fact an AFS problem.
> -- Jeffrey T. Hutzelman (N3NHS) <jhutz+@cmu.edu>
>    GRAND.CENTRAL.ORG/OpenAFS.ORG postmaster, webmaster, etc
>    Carnegie Mellon University - Pittsburgh, PA
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