[OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.4.1 on XP SP2: Delay Write Failed
Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:19:55 -0600
If you're going to flame each other why not do it off list and not waste
Jeffrey Altman wrote:
> This is an open source project. You are a user of the code. I am not
> aware that there is a bug in the code because you have provided no
> evidence to that effect. As far as I can tell the problem is user error.
> Now if you believe there is a problem you can do one of the following
> (1) file a reasonable bug report with the necessary details to either
> demonstrate what the bug is or how to reproduce it.
> (2) you can hire someone to support you and produce such a bug report
> or description of how to reproduce it
> (3) live with the problem and do nothing
> (4) stop using the software
> Wasting my time is not one of the options on the table. At this point
> I think that I am going to add you to a mail filter so that I won't be
> tempted to respond to your posts in the future. Its not that I don't
> want to help you but it really isn't my job to do so. You are not my
> friend nor are you my client. You are simply a random person on the
> Internet who has decided to use a piece of software that I happen to
> contribute code to.
> Good luck in your future use of AFS.
> Jeffrey Altman
> ted creedon wrote:
>> If you're not interested in correcting vague instructions (which should be
>> in the obsolete documentation) and would rather Persian messenger the
>> writer, then there is nothing to discuss.
>> If you need a test case that breaks afs, it is available.
>> I am not in a position to debug your code for you, or test it either.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hutzelman
>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:39 PM
>> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
>> Cc: email@example.com; Jeffrey Hutzelman
>> Subject: RE: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.4.1 on XP SP2: Delay Write Failed
>> On Friday, August 11, 2006 04:16:30 PM -0700 ted tcreedon
>> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>> Is what I wrote correct or not?
>>> I don't have time for comments that are not germaine.
>> Ted, you are asking for help on a public mailing list. If you don't feel
>> you have time for what people here have to say, then feel free not to read
>> their comments, or not to ask for help here.
>> In addition to pointing you at the debugging instructions that are included
>> in the OpenAFS for Windows distribution, Jeff has given you a fairly
>> complete and accurate summary of what steps are required to obtain the
>> debugging dumps that will enable him or others to track down your problem.
>> He even provided som additional tips beyond the bare minimum needed to get
>> the job done. He has also indicated that he cannot or will not provide
>> more personalized support or "handholding" except to his paying clients.
>> I suggest you respect that, and stop asking for that level of support from
>> Jeff unless you are willing to pay for it (in which case, you should
>> contact him off-list). Perhaps there is someone else here who has the time
>> and expertise to help you; if so, I'm sure they'll speak up. In the
>> meantime, I'd suggest reading the documentation and Jeff's previous mail
>> messages, and attempting to gather the requested debugging dumps.
>> Of course, you are welcome to submit a bug report without any debugging
>> output, but that makes your issue more difficult to track down and thus
>> less likely to receive much (or any) attention. This is particularly true
>> in this case, where the data you have provided so far gives no indication
>> of what the problem might be, or even if it is in fact an AFS problem.
>> -- Jeffrey T. Hutzelman (N3NHS) <email@example.com>
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