John Hascall <john@iastate.edu> writes: > The difference here is that somebody else turning something off can be > the trigger. Still not seeing your point. This looks pretty much like every other "we're going to turn something off" transition I've been through in IT. Clear-text telnet, ftp, NFS, DCE, you name it. -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>