[OpenAFS] Strange AFS update behavior.

Hugh Caldwell hcaldwell@usgs.gov
Thu, 5 Jan 2012 15:02:01 -0500


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The cache not updating on my Windows 2008 R2 servers is still a persistent =

problem.=20

I believe the problem may be related to IIS. Some background on what I've=20
been experiencing this week.

I have three servers running IIS 7.5 with the openafs 1.7.4 client. I have =

one website that is only served from one of these servers at a time. What=20
I've seen in the last few days is the web developers will inform me that=20
changes they have made to the website are not showing up. I checked the=20
active server and the content is indeed not showing up but it is available =

on the two stand by servers. I flush the cache on the active server and=20
everything is updated. The web developers then make more changes a few=20
minutes later and now the changes will not show up on any of the three=20
servers. Since I had just checked the two stand by servers this started up =

the application pools in IIS for the website on all three servers which is =

what leads me to believe this may be IIS related.

Could anyone provide me with ideas on troubleshooting and isolating this=20
problem?

Hugh Caldwell
Astor & Sanders
EWeb Systems Administrator
United States Geological Survey
 703-648-6812 (Office)
 703-598-3472 (Cellular)
hcaldwell@usgs.gov
Room 2C123B

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From:
Hugh Caldwell/GIO/CONT/USGS/DOI
To:
openafs-info@openafs.org
Date:
12/29/2011 05:41 PM
Subject:
RE: [OpenAFS] Strange AFS update behavior.


The problem resurfaced again on my servers running 1.7.4 today. These are=20
IIS 7.5 servers and the file in question was an aspx file.

Navigating to the the directory in powershell I see the file has the=20
correct time stamp. Opening the file in notepad I see the old file.

Performing fs flushv on the directory allows me to open the correct file=20
in notepad but IIS continues to serve the old file as if it hasn't=20
received notification of the file change.


Hugh Caldwell
Astor & Sanders
EWeb Systems Administrator
United States Geological Survey
 703-648-6812 (Office)
 703-598-3472 (Cellular)
hcaldwell@usgs.gov
Room 2C123B




From:
Hugh Caldwell <hcaldwell@usgs.gov>
To:
Anders Hannus <Anders.Hannus@ltu.se>
Cc:
Lars Schimmer <l.schimmer@cgv.tugraz.at>, "openafs-info@openafs.org"=20
<openafs-info@openafs.org>, openafs-info-admin@openafs.org
Date:
12/29/2011 09:54 AM
Subject:
RE: [OpenAFS] Strange AFS update behavior.
Sent by:
openafs-info-admin@openafs.org



I've updated all three of my servers to 1.7.4 and have not heard back from =

my users about update issues. Thinks are very quiet around here the last=20
couple weeks so I wouldn't say definitively that the problem has been=20
resolved as I became aware of the issues when users reported the=20
inconsistencies.=20

I also can't really test the issue since the updates not showing up=20
happened inconsistently between the servers.=20

Hugh Caldwell
Astor & Sanders
EWeb Systems Administrator
United States Geological Survey
703-648-6812 (Office)
703-598-3472 (Cellular)
hcaldwell@usgs.gov
Room 2C123B



From:=20
Anders Hannus <Anders.Hannus@ltu.se>=20
To:=20
Lars Schimmer <l.schimmer@cgv.tugraz.at>, "openafs-info@openafs.org"=20
<openafs-info@openafs.org>=20
Date:=20
12/29/2011 02:23 AM=20
Subject:=20
RE: [OpenAFS] Strange AFS update behavior.=20
Sent by:=20
openafs-info-admin@openafs.org




Did upgrading to 1.7.4 fix this issue?

I have had reports on similar issues on our Windows 7 lab computers (with=20
1.7.1 and maybe 1.7.2). After upgrading to 1.7.3 I have not heard of this=20
but that might not mean that the issue is gone. I have never been able to=20
replicate it myself though. This and the next week we will upgrade to=20
1.7.4 and hope that it will perform even better.

/Anders Hannus
Lule=E5 technical university

-----Original Message-----
From: openafs-info-admin@openafs.org [
mailto:openafs-info-admin@openafs.org] On Behalf Of Lars Schimmer
Sent: den 22 december 2011 17:08
To: openafs-info@openafs.org
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Strange AFS update behavior.

On 16.12.2011 22:55, Hugh Caldwell wrote:
> I have three Windows 2008 R2 servers running openafs 1.7.1 and one of=20
> them seems to have trouble updating the cache. Navigating to the AFS=20
> directories in powershell shows the modified date and file size on the=20
> files to be identical. However when I open the file in an editor on=20
> the problem server it opens the old file. Flushing the volume resolves=20
> the issue. Any ideas on what might be causing this behavior?

Try upgrading to 1.7.4.

> Thanks,
>=20
> Hugh Caldwell
> Astor & Sanders
> EWeb Systems Administrator


MfG,
Lars Schimmer
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<font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">The cache not updating on my Windows 2008
R2 servers is still a persistent problem. &nbsp;</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">I believe the problem may be related
to IIS. Some background on what I've been experiencing this week.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">I have three servers running IIS 7.5
with the openafs 1.7.4 client. I have one website that is only served from
one of these servers at a time. What I've seen in the last few days is
the web developers will inform me that changes they have made to the website
are not showing up. I checked the active server and the content is indeed
not showing up but it is available on the two stand by servers. I flush
the cache on the active server and everything is updated. The web developers
then make more changes a few minutes later and now the changes will not
show up on any of the three servers. Since I had just checked the two stand
by servers this started up the application pools in IIS for the website
on all three servers which is what leads me to believe this may be IIS
related.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Could anyone provide me with ideas on
troubleshooting and isolating this problem?</font>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Hugh Caldwell<br>
Astor &amp; Sanders<br>
EWeb Systems Administrator<br>
United States Geological Survey<br>
 703-648-6812 (Office)<br>
 703-598-3472 (Cellular)<br>
hcaldwell@usgs.gov<br>
Room 2C123B<br>
</font>
<br><font size=3D1 color=3D#800080 face=3D"sans-serif">----- Forwarded by H=
ugh
Caldwell/GIO/CONT/USGS/DOI on 01/05/2012 02:50 PM -----</font>
<br>
<table width=3D100%>
<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">From:</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">Hugh Caldwell/GIO/CONT/USGS/DOI</fon=
t>
<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">To:</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">openafs-info@openafs.org</font>
<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">Date:</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">12/29/2011 05:41 PM</font>
<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">Subject:</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">RE: [OpenAFS] Strange AFS update beh=
avior.</font></table>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">The problem resurfaced again on my s=
ervers
running 1.7.4 today. These are IIS 7.5 servers and the file in question
was an aspx file.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Navigating to the the directory in p=
owershell
I see the file has the correct time stamp. Opening the file in notepad
I see the old file.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Performing fs flushv on the directory
allows me to open the correct file in notepad but IIS continues to serve
the old file as if it hasn't received notification of the file change.</fon=
t>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Hugh Caldwell<br>
Astor &amp; Sanders<br>
EWeb Systems Administrator<br>
United States Geological Survey<br>
 703-648-6812 (Office)<br>
 703-598-3472 (Cellular)<br>
hcaldwell@usgs.gov<br>
Room 2C123B<br>
</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<table width=3D100%>
<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">From:</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">Hugh Caldwell &lt;hcaldwell@usgs.gov=
&gt;</font>
<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">To:</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">Anders Hannus &lt;Anders.Hannus@ltu.=
se&gt;</font>
<tr>
<td valign=3Dtop><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">Cc:</fo=
nt>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">Lars Schimmer &lt;l.schimmer@cgv.tug=
raz.at&gt;,
&quot;openafs-info@openafs.org&quot; &lt;openafs-info@openafs.org&gt;,
openafs-info-admin@openafs.org</font>
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<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">Date:</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">12/29/2011 09:54 AM</font>
<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">Subject:</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">RE: [OpenAFS] Strange AFS update beh=
avior.</font>
<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">Sent by:</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">openafs-info-admin@openafs.org</font=
></table>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">I've updated all three of my servers
to 1.7.4 and have not heard back from my users about update issues. Thinks
are very quiet around here the last couple weeks so I wouldn't say definiti=
vely
that the problem has been resolved as I became aware of the issues when
users reported the inconsistencies. </font><font size=3D3><br>
</font><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
I also can't really test the issue since the updates not showing up happened
inconsistently between the servers. <br>
<br>
Hugh Caldwell<br>
Astor &amp; Sanders<br>
EWeb Systems Administrator<br>
United States Geological Survey<br>
703-648-6812 (Office)<br>
703-598-3472 (Cellular)<br>
hcaldwell@usgs.gov<br>
Room 2C123B</font><font size=3D3><br>
<br>
<br>
</font>
<table width=3D100%>
<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td width=3D8%><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">From:</fo=
nt><font size=3D3>
</font>
<td width=3D91%><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">Anders Hannus &lt;Anders=
.Hannus@ltu.se&gt;</font><font size=3D3>
</font>
<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">To:</font><font size=
=3D3>
</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">Lars Schimmer &lt;l.schimmer@cgv.tug=
raz.at&gt;,
&quot;openafs-info@openafs.org&quot; &lt;openafs-info@openafs.org&gt;</font=
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<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">12/29/2011 02:23 AM</font><font size=
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</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">RE: [OpenAFS] Strange AFS update beh=
avior.</font><font size=3D3>
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<tr valign=3Dtop>
<td><font size=3D1 color=3D#5f5f5f face=3D"sans-serif">Sent by:</font><font=
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</font>
<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">openafs-info-admin@openafs.org</font=
></table>
<br><font size=3D3><br>
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<hr noshade><font size=3D3><br>
<br>
</font><tt><font size=3D2><br>
Did upgrading to 1.7.4 fix this issue?<br>
<br>
I have had reports on similar issues on our Windows 7 lab computers (with
1.7.1 and maybe 1.7.2). After upgrading to 1.7.3 I have not heard of this
but that might not mean that the issue is gone. I have never been able
to replicate it myself though. This and the next week we will upgrade to
1.7.4 and hope that it will perform even better.<br>
<br>
/Anders Hannus<br>
Lule=E5 technical university<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
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On Behalf Of Lars Schimmer<br>
Sent: den 22 december 2011 17:08<br>
To: openafs-info@openafs.org<br>
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Strange AFS update behavior.<br>
<br>
On 16.12.2011 22:55, Hugh Caldwell wrote:<br>
&gt; I have three Windows 2008 R2 servers running openafs 1.7.1 and one
of <br>
&gt; them seems to have trouble updating the cache. Navigating to the AFS
<br>
&gt; directories in powershell shows the modified date and file size on
the <br>
&gt; files to be identical. However when I open the file in an editor on
<br>
&gt; the problem server it opens the old file. Flushing the volume resolves
<br>
&gt; the issue. Any ideas on what might be causing this behavior?<br>
<br>
Try upgrading to 1.7.4.<br>
<br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hugh Caldwell<br>
&gt; Astor &amp; Sanders<br>
&gt; EWeb Systems Administrator<br>
<br>
<br>
MfG,<br>
Lars Schimmer<br>
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