[OpenAFS] any experiences with OpenAFS client on the upcoming MacOS 10.10 (yosemite) release?

Jeffrey Altman jaltman@secure-endpoints.com
Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:04:27 -0400


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The use Microsoft cross-signed certificates and Apple signing
certificates come with contractual obligations specifying the
circumstances under which signatures may be used.  A signature is not
simply a method of proving that code has not been altered.  A signature
is an indication to a customer that all of the terms of use which might
include design requirements, QA requirements, certification
requirements, licensing requirements, etc. are satisfied by the signed
binary.

Using a Microsoft or Apple signing certificate is not the same as
signing an object with your own self-generated cert.  The certificates
are trusted by the kernel and do not require subsequent online validation=
=2E

Jeffrey Altman


On 10/21/2014 1:37 AM, Mattias Pantzare wrote:
> Why would signing of binaries imply anything more that just generate th=
e
> binaries without signing? The only thing that signing anything adds it =
a
> way to prove that nothing has been altered.
>=20
> You are just as open for lawsuits without signing, the only difference
> is that you can trace the right source more easily with the signing.
>=20
>=20
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Jeffrey Altman
> <jaltman@secure-endpoints.com <mailto:jaltman@secure-endpoints.com>> wr=
ote:
>=20
>     On 10/20/2014 3:40 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
>     >
>     > Some individual or organization will need to step forward to do t=
hat
>     > signing; I do not believe that there is an "OpenAFS" organization=

>     > currently able or prepared to do so.  (Perhaps the Foundation cou=
ld, but I
>     > am not sure.)
>=20
>     The correct entity to do so for OSX and Microsoft Windows and any o=
ther
>     platform for which OpenAFS.org will distribute signed binaries is t=
he
>     OpenAFS Foundation.  Signing binaries implies an acceptance of liab=
ility
>     if those binaries were to cause harm.  The OpenAFS Foundation shoul=
d not
>     sign binaries until it has appropriate insurance coverage in place =
to
>     protect the release team and the developers that
>     contribute to the release.
>=20
>     Your File System Inc. currently signs the Windows installers becaus=
e
>     those packages are predominantly a product of YFSI developers and i=
t has
>     the appropriate General and Errors and Omissions insurance policies=
 in
>     place to cover any lawsuits that might be initiated.
>=20
>     Jeffrey Altman
>=20
>=20
>=20


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