[OpenAFS-port-darwin] My Ramblings was--Re: Many crashes on OS X 10.3 - MP problem?

Ragnar Sundblad ragge@nada.kth.se
Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:02:54 +0100


--On den 16 februari 2004 23:38 -0800 Shantonu Sen <ssen@mit.edu> wrote:

> You didn't upset me at all.

Ok, good! Now we are all happy and cooperating again! :-)

> I just am trying to present a balanced
> perspective on this situation. I've seen several posts to this list of the
> form "Apple really needs to fix this or else...", when I think a more
> accurate description of the issue is "OpenAFS.org brought this code to
> Mac OS X, and it being broken is really preventing a lot of people from
> using it ". One version directs the blame at Apple, which I think is
> unjust in some ways, and the other acknowledges that there is(are) a
> problem(s), and solutions don't just fall from the sky. As some people
> have mentioned, Arla can fill this niche, and has for some sites.

I have earlier here tried to express something along the lines of
the above too, but I can also understand that some people does not
find it to far fetched that apple would actively support and maybe
even ship with openafs, just as they do with many other opensource
projects that adds value for many but not all customers.

It sure would be a good thing to this community.

I have also been one of those promoting Arla, we are using it for
our production systems and have been since the mosx beginning.
It was actually ported to mosx on our machines, and in part
becase we wanted it.

I have been very happy that we actually have had the luxuary
of alternatives here. I have now started to look more actively
on openafs since I know there isn't much time spent on Arla
coding currently, and there still are minor bugs that could be
fixed. Now I find openafs for mosx in a kind of bad shape too,
actually even worse than arla, and currently no one actively
stomping on that code either. This was no fun surprise.

I'd like to get back to the "two alternatives" situation again.

Oh well, enough of this.

/ragge