[OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] the future

Troy Benjegerdes hozer@hozed.org
Sun, 30 Sep 2012 14:33:07 -0500


How about this:

src/aklog$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../lib ./aklog
This software is free software, and depends on your ongoing support
Please consider a donation to http://openafs.org/Donate
src/tfs/src/aklog$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../lib ./aklog -nonag
src/tfs/src/aklog$ 

After doing this, I realized I need to add this message to 'tokens'
as well.

Would the developers accept a patch to add this to at least 'aklog'
and 'tokens' ?

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 02:10:23PM -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
> I would hope that the donation link would be a more subtle, and equally
> effective incentive. If edu CIO's start getting emails from professors
> asking "Why is this software we depend on asking for donations", maybe 
> they'd start looking at their overhead budgets. But that overhead money
> will come from somewhere else.. We better have a story on the donation
> landing page on how much AFS saves vs the 'storage appliance' and 'cloud'
> models that are all the rage among CIOs.
> 
> How about a landing page with a survey of "What excessive IT spend would
> you cut in your organization and redirect to AFS?".
> 
> One-time deals (on linux) that require interaction will blow up all kinds
> of automated tools and leave the rank and file admins your enemy. 
> 
> How do you pop up a dialog when aklog is called via the GDM/KDM login via
> pam_aklog, for instance?
> 
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:52:51AM -0700, Ted Creedon wrote:
> > My intent was to foment a user uprising resulting in pressure on the .edu &
> > .com level administrators to provide funding from established budgets. More
> > of a corporate funding than individual contributions.
> > 
> > Perhaps a cc to the local spreadsheet managers would get the user needs
> > better communicated.
> > 
> > I.e. you can't aklog one time only until you fill out the poll, send it in
> > w/cc to local financial folks.
> > 
> > Tedc
> > 
> > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@hozed.org> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 02:49:08AM -0700, Ted Creedon wrote:
> > >
> > > > How about taking a AFS wide survey using a aklog token driven one time
> > > pop
> > > > up explaining that AFS is not being updated according to industry
> > > standards
> > > > and that it needs substantial financial support.
> > > >
> > > > Most users are charged for computer support one way or another. AFS needs
> > > > to be included just like Microsoft license fees.
> > > >
> > > > I.e. is there any way to get the users fired up?
> > >
> > > I like this. But I think for this to work we need a simple URL like
> > > 'http://openafs.org/donate' that that shows up in the command line aklog
> > > client, and on a clickable link in the GUI client.
> > >
> > > Currently http://static.usenix.org/about/openafs/ is the only 'donate to
> > > OpenAFS' link I can find, but that requires cutting a check. The landing
> > > page for donations needs to accept PayPal, Amazon payments, Dwolla, and
> > > Bitcoin, as well as form to click saying 'My organization uses openafs,
> > > please contact __________ who has purchasing authority'
> > >
> > > I think it would look better to have a full OpenAFS foundation with clear
> > > governance, but for the moment, all that is needed is some consensus to
> > > set up a 'donate' landing page on OpenAFS.org, and someone to set up the
> > > payment arrangements so checks get regularly cut to the address on the
> > > Usenix association page.
> > >
> > > If there is a consensus to go ahead with this, I would be willing to offer
> > > to handle the Dwolla and Bitcoin 'instant donate' links. I can beat
> > > whatever
> > > percentage Amazon and Paypal take and still make it worth my time, and I'll
> > > include the others because it makes for wider audience for contributions.
> > >
> > > If there is not a consensus to go ahead with this within a month or two,
> > > I'm going to (at whatever glacial pace I feel like it) release TFS
> > > version(s)
> > > for Linux, Android, and MacOS that have such a link and donate pages.
> > >
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