[OpenAFS] /usr/sbin/afsd --impatient

[Jeffrey Altman]

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Ken Hornstein wrote:
>> The gatekeepers have an open channel to Apple on AFS but we really
>> need issues to be filed via the Apple Sales staff.  Other organizations
>> have gotten Apple's attention by refusing to order new equipment with
>> Tiger installed until an OpenAFS stable release is available.   I'm not
>> suggesting you do the same; I'm only pointing out that the sales staff
>> can be motivated to serve your needs.
> 
> Well ... I'm willing to try to do my part, but is it possible to "close
> the loop" ... in other words, if a sales droid tells me that they "did
> something", can someone verify that in fact they _did_ do something
> meaningful?
> 
>> If that does not work for you, as a developer you can also file bug
>> reports via ADC.  If you are going to do so, please file a bug report
>> at openafs-bugs@openafs.org including the ADC Bug Reference number.
> 
> I'm willing to do that as well ... but my experience has shown me
> REPEATEDLY that Apple basically makes one halfhearted attempt to
> resolve a bug report files that way, and then ignores it.  Happened to
> me twice.  These weren't OpenAFS issues, but I can't imagine that the
> experience in filing bug reports dealing with third-party software
> is going to be any better.
> 
> --Ken

Notice I asked you to file the ADC bug report number in the openafs RT.
The OpenAFS gatekeepers are in contact with Apple on a regular basis and
we can make sure things are followed up.  However, we really need a
broad base of users to tell Apple what they need.  Otherwise, it is
simply a bunch of developers who love their software trying to convince
a vendor that people do in fact use it.

Jeffrey Altman

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