[OpenAFS] the notion of "site" is not always well-defined / "project cells"

Jeffrey Altman jaltman@secure-endpoints.com
Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:12:49 -0800


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Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote:

> The problem, Jeff, is that you have not quite gotten over the antiquated
> notion of a "site" in which a central administrator exerts complete
> control over all the services and all the clients.

Jeff:

I don't believe that any service provider has complete control over
clients.  However, I know that cell administrators want to be able
to specify policy that is followed by clients.

You have objected to all methods of distributing cell and realm
configuration data that is the least bit insecure.  The only method
that is not insecure is for the user to btain that data in a trusted
manner from the administrator of the cell.  Adman is the administrator
of his cell and until he can convince the powers that be at Berkeley
to distribute configuration data for him, he will need to do so himself.
The way his does that is to package the client and include the necessary
configuration data.

The other way he can distribute the data that I know you object to
is to provide his end users an https URL that can be entered into the
EXE versions of the OpenAFS.org and MIT KFW installers that will obtain
configuration data from that location.

I don't know where you get this idea that I believe in centralized
control.

Jeffrey Altman

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