[OpenAFS] Update time loses 67 seconds on new volume

Kristen Webb kwebb@teradactyl.com
Thu, 3 Jan 2019 13:54:02 -0700


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Hi Jeff,
Thank you for the clarification on the Copy Date.  My investigations
confirm all of this.  I'll continue digging on how/way the file timestamps
are not matching up as expected.
Thanks again!
Kris

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 1:47 PM Jeffrey Altman <jaltman@auristor.com> wrote:

> On 1/3/2019 2:54 PM, Kristen Webb wrote:
> > This is an old issue that is cropping up in a different way, so I wanted
> to
> > share this before I attempt to perform any sort of repair that might
> > lose state.
> >
> > A client moved a volume and currently the .backup volume copy date does
> not
> > match the rw volume copy date.  As far as I can tell, the version of
> > openafs was
> > 1.8.2 (I am confirming this now).
> >
> > Here are some current time stamps:
> >
> > # vos ex test.volume
> >     Copy        Thu Nov 29 15:10:47 2018
> >
> > # vos ex test.volume.backup
> >     Copy        Fri Nov 30 02:38:44 2018
> >
> > When I try to manually update the .backup volume the Copy time
> > is unchanged and still different from the rw volume.
> >
>
> Kris,
>
> I'm not sure what if any data corruption is taking place during volume
> moves with OpenAFS 1.8.x but I believe looking at the volume Copy date
> is a red herring.  OpenAFS destroys the ".backup" as part of a RW volume
> move.  Therefore, the "Copy" date is not expected to match the "Copy"
> date of the RW when the BACK is re-created.
>
> The Copy field displays the date and time this copy of this volume was
> created. This is the time when the volume was created on the File Server
> and partition from which statistics are obtained.
>
> For read/write volumes, it is the date and time of initial creation if
> the volume has never been moved or restored, or the date and time of the
> most recent move or restore operation.
>
> For read-only volumes, it is the date and time of the initial vos
> release command that copied the volume data to the File Server and
> partition.
>
> For backup volumes, it is the date and time of the initial vos backup or
> vos backupsys command on the specified File Server and partition. It
> will match the Creation field.
>
> The copy date is not stored in volume dumps and cannot be restored or
> migrated to another File Server or partition.
>
> Jeffrey Altman
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Jeff,<div>Thank you for the clarification on the Copy D=
ate.=C2=A0 My investigations</div><div>confirm all of this.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll =
continue digging on how/way the file timestamps</div><div>are not matching =
up as expected.</div><div>Thanks again!</div><div>Kris</div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 1:47 PM Jeffr=
ey Altman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jaltman@auristor.com">jaltman@auristor.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">O=
n 1/3/2019 2:54 PM, Kristen Webb wrote:<br>
&gt; This is an old issue that is cropping up in a different way, so I want=
ed to<br>
&gt; share this before I attempt to perform any sort of repair that might<b=
r>
&gt; lose state.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; A client moved a volume and currently the .backup volume copy date doe=
s not<br>
&gt; match the rw volume copy date.=C2=A0 As far as I can tell, the version=
 of<br>
&gt; openafs was<br>
&gt; 1.8.2 (I am confirming this now).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Here are some current time stamps:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; # vos ex test.volume<br>
&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Copy=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thu Nov 29 15:10:47 2018=
<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; # vos ex test.volume.backup<br>
&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Copy=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Fri Nov 30 02:38:44 2018=
<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; When I try to manually update the .backup volume the Copy time<br>
&gt; is unchanged and still different from the rw volume.<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
Kris,<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not sure what if any data corruption is taking place during volume<=
br>
moves with OpenAFS 1.8.x but I believe looking at the volume Copy date<br>
is a red herring.=C2=A0 OpenAFS destroys the &quot;.backup&quot; as part of=
 a RW volume<br>
move.=C2=A0 Therefore, the &quot;Copy&quot; date is not expected to match t=
he &quot;Copy&quot;<br>
date of the RW when the BACK is re-created.<br>
<br>
The Copy field displays the date and time this copy of this volume was<br>
created. This is the time when the volume was created on the File Server<br=
>
and partition from which statistics are obtained.<br>
<br>
For read/write volumes, it is the date and time of initial creation if<br>
the volume has never been moved or restored, or the date and time of the<br=
>
most recent move or restore operation.<br>
<br>
For read-only volumes, it is the date and time of the initial vos<br>
release command that copied the volume data to the File Server and<br>
partition.<br>
<br>
For backup volumes, it is the date and time of the initial vos backup or<br=
>
vos backupsys command on the specified File Server and partition. It<br>
will match the Creation field.<br>
<br>
The copy date is not stored in volume dumps and cannot be restored or<br>
migrated to another File Server or partition.<br>
<br>
Jeffrey Altman<br>
<br>
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