[OpenAFS-port-darwin] Re: Many crashes on OS X 10.3

Edward Moy emoy@apple.com
Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:22:33 -0800


I did the last work on the darwin port, but like most other engineers, 
we are working away on the next releases of Mac OS X.  Is OpenAFS (or 
any other AFS product) officially support on Mac OS X at this time?  
Unfortunately, no.  Has it been abandoned?  Definitely, not.  There are 
many advocates even at Apple, but resources are stretched as it is with 
priorities and new technologies being worked on.

But Apple is a customer-driven company, and the more customers that 
show interest in missing functionality, the more likely our priorities 
may change.

I, myself, have not seen the instabilities that have been reported, but 
I haven't recently been using OpenAFS much either.

Edward Moy
Apple

On Feb 13, 2004, at 5:48 AM, Jason Ferrara wrote:

> Which brings me to ask again, is there anyone in charge of the darwin 
> port
> of OpenAFS? Or has it been abandoned?
>
> On Feb 6, 2004, at 5:25 PM, Ragnar Sundblad wrote:
>
>>
>> --On den 6 februari 2004 19:40 +0100 Massimo Marino 
>> <Massimo_Marino@lbl.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> First: I am not flaming but it might be important to know for people 
>>> in
>>> charge that it is not AFS per se: I use Arla with OS X 10.3 and the
>>> system is as solid as it could be. Never had a single kernel panic 
>>> in two
>>> years now and AFS is on daily.
>>
>> I sure don't want to flame anyone either, but I have to say that
>> this is my experience too. We have been using Arla since 10.0,
>> and very seldom have panics, and I have never seen one that
>> I couldn't relate to something else (maybe in combination with
>> arla, it was for example before very easy to trig a panic by
>> fooling around with mounting urls with the command line tools,
>> I never tried it without arla).
>>
>> We are now testing OpenAFS with 10.3, since we felt that there
>> is currently more programming effort going into OpenAFS than
>> Arla (maybe not on Mac OS X, though), but I think it is far
>> to unstable to be useful. A minute ago I crashed my machine
>> just with a find in a directory in my home directory
>> (which is in afs).
>>
>> These bugs are hopefully easy to smash, OpenAFS works very well
>> on many other operating systems, but is there anyone working on it?
>>
>> Sadly I don't know enough about unix filesystems and and unix
>> virtual memory to easily get going myself.
>>
>> /ragge
>>
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