[OpenAFS] OpenAFS still in development?

Ted Creedon tcreedon@easystreet.net
Sun, 21 Jun 2015 10:04:35 -0700


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It might be best to run older OS's like XP and Yosemite as virtual machines
under Linux, and rely on older but functional AFS versions. That's what i'm
doing.

If there is a business case for additional functions then Win 10, etc with
all its add on costs must be paid for.

Sad to say but maintenance of AFS/YFS requires effort/money and Apple &
Microsoft are busy locking up their OS's because they won't compete with
Linux et al.

Just like ATT did with Unix .  (Remember the $1,500 per box  license fee
from ATT&Berkley for SVR5 R4?). That gave MS the entry point for DOS.

One has to ask why the need for fancy features when an 8K Data General NOVA
1200 was perfectly adequate for the majority of small business needs.

Answer: Unless one needs encryption & security, which makes the case for
the biggest & best. Then software complexity becomes an issue.

There's just too darn much code to maintain.  My observation is when
written code gets to a certain size the number of monthly critical bugs
remains constant. Hence the need for "approved" drivers, Istores, etc.

Which won't change the constant number of bugs!

Tedc



On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Harald Barth <haba@kth.se> wrote:

>
> > 4. Is AuriStor a replacement for OpenAFS?
> >
> > AuriStor is designed to be a general purpose, platform independent,
> > secure, distributed file system that can be successfully deployed
> > internally, across the Internet, and within public cloud services.
> > AuriStor is an IBM AFS(R) and OpenAFS compatible file system that
> > (...)
> >  . and more
>
> On
>
> https://www.your-file-system.com/openafs/auristor-comparison
>
> I have not found a list of supported platforms (client and server)
> comparison for OpenAFS and AuriStor. Because if it does not
> run on the platform, it's not a replacement.
>
> I have not found a price list of the products and what they contain.
>
> However, there is much "we are better" advertisement. That's not
> something that works well in all cultures.
>
> My conclusion of the current "landscape" is that if you have chosen a
> closed source operating system that you pay money for, in the future
> you'll have to pay money for a decent file system as well, either
> directly to the OS vendor or to a third party. That will in the future
> be necessary for any other function enhancement as well. That trend
> will continue and sooner or later include every app(lication) that you
> want to run on that platform.
>
> Harald.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>It might be best to run=
 older OS&#39;s like XP and Yosemite as virtual machines under Linux, and r=
ely on older but functional AFS versions. That&#39;s what i&#39;m doing.<br=
><br></div>If there is a business case for additional functions then Win 10=
, etc with all its add on costs must be paid for.=C2=A0 <br><br></div>Sad t=
o say but maintenance of AFS/YFS requires effort/money and Apple &amp; Micr=
osoft are busy locking up their OS&#39;s because they won&#39;t compete wit=
h Linux et al.<br><br></div>Just like ATT did with Unix .=C2=A0 (Remember t=
he $1,500 per box=C2=A0 license fee from ATT&amp;Berkley for SVR5 R4?). Tha=
t gave MS the entry point for DOS.<br><br></div>One has to ask why the need=
 for fancy features when an 8K Data General NOVA 1200 was perfectly adequat=
e for the majority of small business needs.<br><br></div>Answer: Unless one=
 needs encryption &amp; security, which makes the case for the biggest &amp=
; best. Then software complexity becomes an issue. <br><br></div>There&#39;=
s just too darn much code to maintain.=C2=A0 My observation is when written=
 code gets to a certain size the number of monthly critical bugs remains co=
nstant. Hence the need for &quot;approved&quot; drivers, Istores, etc. <br>=
<br>Which won&#39;t change the constant number of bugs!<br><br></div>Tedc<b=
r><div><div><div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 1:55 AM,=
 Harald Barth <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:haba@kth.se" target=
=3D"_blank">haba@kth.se</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><span class=3D""><br>
&gt; 4. Is AuriStor a replacement for OpenAFS?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; AuriStor is designed to be a general purpose, platform independent,<br=
>
&gt; secure, distributed file system that can be successfully deployed<br>
&gt; internally, across the Internet, and within public cloud services.<br>
&gt; AuriStor is an IBM AFS(R) and OpenAFS compatible file system that<br>
</span>&gt; (...)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 . and more<br>
<br>
On<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.your-file-system.com/openafs/auristor-comparison" re=
l=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.your-file-system.com/openafs=
/auristor-comparison</a><br>
<br>
I have not found a list of supported platforms (client and server)<br>
comparison for OpenAFS and AuriStor. Because if it does not<br>
run on the platform, it&#39;s not a replacement.<br>
<br>
I have not found a price list of the products and what they contain.<br>
<br>
However, there is much &quot;we are better&quot; advertisement. That&#39;s =
not<br>
something that works well in all cultures.<br>
<br>
My conclusion of the current &quot;landscape&quot; is that if you have chos=
en a<br>
closed source operating system that you pay money for, in the future<br>
you&#39;ll have to pay money for a decent file system as well, either<br>
directly to the OS vendor or to a third party. That will in the future<br>
be necessary for any other function enhancement as well. That trend<br>
will continue and sooner or later include every app(lication) that you<br>
want to run on that platform.<br>
<br>
Harald.<br>
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